Author Topic: adding draw weight?  (Read 6950 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline George Tsoukalas

  • Member
  • Posts: 9,425
    • Traditional and Primitive Archers
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 09:49:12 am »
I agree with PD. Start another. Jawge
Set Happens!
If you ain't breakin' you ain't makin!

Offline Pappy

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 32,206
  • if you have to ask you wouldn't understand ,Tenn.
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 09:52:16 am »
In that case,30 inch draw,yes I would also just start another. :)
   Pappy
Clarksville,Tennessee
TwinOaks Bowhunters
Life is Good

Offline PEARL DRUMS

  • Member
  • Posts: 14,079
  • }}}--CK-->
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 10:12:14 am »
You two old farts told me that 10 times before it sank in. Sure you can flip or recurve tips and add temporary weight, but the added stress takes about 60-70% away after 500 shots or so. You simply cant add wood and more wood means more draw weight.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,637
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2014, 10:51:03 am »
You are here on PA to learn how to build wood bows. On this one you came in under weight so get another stave and see what you learned.  ;)  You can make a purse out of a pigs ear but is that what you want?
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Fred Arnold

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,566
  • From up on Munson Creek
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2014, 11:07:02 am »
Tyke, I agree with what the other old timers are saying. That looks like a nice 38# bow. I'd leave it and move on to the next one. You'll find that is the perfect weight for anyone just starting out and there will be plenty of people around to shoot it when you get your heavier bows built. I have a few of them on my rack for friends to shoot and learn on.
I found many years ago that it is much easier and more rewarding working with those that don't know anything than those that know it all.

Offline bradsmith2010

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,187
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2014, 12:53:33 pm »
if the bow is long enough,, cutting some length,, is a positive option,, adding sinew will also bring weight as well,,,
but as stated above need a little more info

Offline autologus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,092
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2014, 01:18:53 pm »
I would not add sinew to a 72" bow, if anything I would heat treat the belly good and hope for the best.

Grady
Proud Hillbilly from Arkansas.

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2014, 01:26:08 pm »
 A light heat treating, recurves and sinew on the working portion will easily do the job.

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,637
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2014, 01:32:40 pm »
This is a first time builder. I think some folks are going to confuse him with suggestions of sinew backing, heat treating and bending recurves. IMO he should learn how to tiller properly and how to hit the draw weight he's shooting for before going on to "bow building 201".
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline JoJoDapyro

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,504
  • Subscription Number PM109294
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2014, 01:58:18 pm »
This isn't his "First" bow. A few weeks back he completed a 72 inch ttt Osage flat bow, it is 50# at 30. The lingo is there, just not the backing knowledge. He did recurve his tips on the last one. He had to heat bend an almost U shape out of one of the limbs of this one. He also heated in some reflex into this one.

 http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,47429.msg647942.html#msg647942 .

That is the post of the first Osage build.
If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got.
27 inch draw, right handed. Bow building and Knapping.

Offline George Tsoukalas

  • Member
  • Posts: 9,425
    • Traditional and Primitive Archers
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2014, 02:35:11 pm »
LOL, PD. :)

No doubt about the old and the fart part.

I'm looking at a BL stave thinking the recliner sounds better now.

I spent sooo much time trying to increase draw weight years ago in the last century that it finally sunk in too.

As far as piking goes, 1 inch off each end will get ya 5#ish and more set. But at least it will be fun pulling a 5# heavier bow and getting the same cast. :)

Jawge
Set Happens!
If you ain't breakin' you ain't makin!

Offline bradsmith2010

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,187
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2014, 04:32:28 pm »
well ok,, I agree with pretty much all the advice,,,and only know what I know,,
but increasing weight on a bow is not that complicated,,
there are times when a bow is overbuilt,, that reducing the length ,,decreases the mass so that the bow actually shoots harder even if tillerd to the same weight,,,,not always ,, but sometimes,,,,, and as stated,, you can increase weight,, and the bow will take more set and off set the increase in weight,, but thats how we learn,,, if the bow is 72 inches long,,, and a low draw weight,,,there is some room to fine tune,, without having to build a new bow,,,, that being said,, ,, building new bow is good experience as well,,,

Offline George Tsoukalas

  • Member
  • Posts: 9,425
    • Traditional and Primitive Archers
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2014, 05:29:55 pm »
That's true, Brad. Fine tuning is always good to learn. Jawge
Set Happens!
If you ain't breakin' you ain't makin!

Offline JoJoDapyro

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,504
  • Subscription Number PM109294
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2014, 06:14:57 pm »
Just got back from his house. He Piked 3 inches off of each end. Roughly 55 at 27. It is for his nephew anyhow (he thought he wrote that), who is about 5'5 and 15 years old or so. Still looks good.
If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got.
27 inch draw, right handed. Bow building and Knapping.

Offline Tyke

  • Member
  • Posts: 343
Re: adding draw weight?
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2014, 07:03:26 pm »
Thanks for all the advice ill post pics of my nephew shooting it hopefully he dosent grow anymore and it will be fine
why buy it when you can build it