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Offline Marc St Louis

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #285 on: May 29, 2014, 09:35:33 am »
I was thinking about this thread last night and it made me think of the Leatherwall and the white-wood wars of the 90's. 

It is indeed a sad thread but better that than letting misinformation stand for newbies to see and accept as gospel.
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #286 on: May 29, 2014, 10:03:14 am »
Didn't think it was that bad Marc,everyone seemed to stay PRETTY civil :) I just got tired of reading about something I have no desire or intentions of building, and like a lot of other aspects of this wood bow thing,lots of different oppions myths and half truths out there, and also lots of folks that think they have all the right answers. Always been that way and probably always will. ;) :) :)
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #287 on: May 29, 2014, 11:42:34 am »
True Mark, it was somewhat civil.

When you set limitations you are also limiting your imagination.
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #288 on: May 29, 2014, 12:31:39 pm »
Please don't let them turn their imaginations loose.  :o
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #289 on: May 29, 2014, 12:42:01 pm »
ok..patb....now that was funny!  8)
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #290 on: May 29, 2014, 02:06:08 pm »
I cut  number of elm trees with this in my mind and they are now dry enough to trust  their stability. Should have something soon.

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #291 on: May 29, 2014, 02:11:45 pm »
It'll never work Pat....:)
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #292 on: May 29, 2014, 03:06:14 pm »
Well I got to page 8 and then skipped to here, man O man. ::) By the way nice bend on that bow huisme,it was well worth the time spent on this thread. ;) :)
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Anyone think any vine maple has a 60" 100#@26" bow in it? It seems to me it'd be a fun hike to find a trunk large enough to avoid having to decrown something like that.
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #293 on: May 29, 2014, 04:42:27 pm »
As an impartial observer (I've been lurking these forums for about a year, but just now getting around to signing up and posting) with no long-standing relationships with anyone here, this thread is pretty silly.

To the "challenger" -- it's pretty weak to offer up a pretty killer reward for anyone that can do it, and then make stipulation after stipulation and change the framing over and over again. And why should there be a time limit on it? Pretty silly to me. It's almost as if ... you know someone will do it, and you don't want to actually have to make good on your promise.

And to those who were/are entertaining it, someone should just do it already! It's one thing to say it's possible, even easy. It's another to passive-aggressively belittle the talents of the other bowyers here.

But I think it'd be awesome to actually see this thing, whether or not there is a sweet static recurve at the end of the rainbow or not.

In other words: A lot of barking around here....

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #294 on: May 29, 2014, 05:59:48 pm »
I got no dog in the fight but... Don't cross-bow guys do this?

I realize the draw length is is small, but so is the length... For example... here is a 32" yew paddle bow prod (made buy Shaun) that pulls 105# @ 9.5".  Straight with no recurves.  If this is possible, than why shouldn't  it make sense that you could double the length of that prod, add some limb width (say 3.5 inches wide)  and be be pulling a nice paddle bow, in the mid 20" draw length range at over 100#.. Correct?  Am I missing one of the rules?

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,36504.msg480625.html#msg480625

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #295 on: May 29, 2014, 08:25:29 pm »
There is no reason to go over slightly more than 2 inches in limb width.

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #296 on: May 29, 2014, 09:00:37 pm »
Well, I'd say that depends on how long your bow is Pat.
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #297 on: May 29, 2014, 10:46:30 pm »
 60 inches, like the rules say.  High quality wood can take that.

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #298 on: May 29, 2014, 11:39:03 pm »
Gabe, a few years back I made a cross bow prode from ipe, it was around 32" long and draw about 125#@14" , I would guess now about 1 1/2 wide

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #299 on: May 30, 2014, 09:24:56 pm »
Marc, the white-wood/yellow-wood discussions we had on the Leatherwall spawned Mojam and many more get togethers like it.
I'm sure this thread started out headed in a good direction. It's to bad personal feelings led it down a different path. But it has gotten people to think about what we do and why we do it. I build bows because I enjoy doing it and I know some one will enjoy shooting the bow.
I don't do it to satisfy my ego or just to prove it can be done. That would be a waste of my time or any one who decided to do it.