I got the 10 by 10 from SG, $100 member price, Got it set up yesterday as well. Looks like it's gonna be roomy enough for my four person family. It does not have a rain fly, the whole tent is a rain fly. It has two doors and four gusseted windows as well as four plastic windows for light I suppose. It has a round bottom, Pat's square bottom will probably be easier to get a tarp under. Some of the hardware is kinda cheap, but I think it's gonna work good for us. I'm still bringing my old tent to the classic, though, incase it gets washed down stream by a toad strangler. Thanks for the idea Pat, we were in need of a tent and the whole family likes this one. We laid around in it yesterday afternoon and the boys played in there for awhile longer. Have a gooder, dp
