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Offline nativenoobowyer86

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PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« on: February 03, 2012, 02:35:20 pm »
this is my first D-style bow and i am not really sure what the tiller should look like, it is 59 in NTN with the bottom limb about 1/2 in shorter an stiffer than the top. the bottom limb is on the left in the pics, there is a decent wobble in the top limb that is kinda messin with me :)

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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 02:40:45 pm »
I hope some of the experienced 'D' tillers (like Ken, George, Rich) answer soon, because that is what I plan on making my 'D' bow look like.
Bowmakers are a little bent, but knappers are just plain flaky.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 02:41:59 pm »
That look  spretty nice to my eye.
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Offline nativenoobowyer86

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 02:46:15 pm »
this is 52# at 24. i think there is enough string angle to get 26. about an 1 1/8 of set so faar
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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 02:48:33 pm »
You could heat flip the tips to make the draw to 26" a little more comfortable.
Bowmakers are a little bent, but knappers are just plain flaky.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 02:50:49 pm »
I agree with Bevan on the tip flipping.
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 02:55:15 pm »
  Im no expert on D tillering but it looks awful good to me as is.
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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 02:57:03 pm »
Tiller looks great to me. I say keep it as is at 52#@24".

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 03:14:46 pm »
you dont need help on tiller , i think you got it !


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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 03:18:41 pm »
That looks great to me!

If you're concerned about string angle and draw length, you could flip the tips as advised earlier, or get just a bit more bend in the middle.

Can't wait to see it finished up!

Offline Bevan R.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 03:19:50 pm »
Not that it really matters, but what kind of wood is it?
Bowmakers are a little bent, but knappers are just plain flaky.

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 03:53:25 pm »
Nice looking bow! Tiller looks good by my eye

Josh
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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 03:57:23 pm »
This is very good tiller. I wouldn't touch it any more. If we talk about perfect tiller then you should heat treat (just a little) two softer places (just a little bit): places where meets middle and outer third on left limb and middle of right limb. But this is just to improve tiller to perfection, I think it is good enough now.

Offline nativenoobowyer86

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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 04:21:03 pm »
thanks for the extra eyes fellas, i appreciate the help, i didnt know where to scrape anymore :) i guess that means its done :D

Bevan R - it is paper birch, i am suprised by how light in the hand it is.  i always considered birch to be very dense and heavy but, like it says in the TBB's, its lighter than anything i have used. Elm being second.

Matt S, Pearl Drums, Bevan R - im ok with 25" for draw and 54-55# so i think i will pull it the extra inch and call it good.

Druid - i think you are right about the soft spots, i thought i saw them but it wasnt enough to put the scraper to it.  One of these days ill print out a pic of one of your amazing bendy handle bows and put it by my bench for reference :D
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Re: PaperBirch D-bow - tiller help
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 06:40:51 pm »
Looks good.  You could get a couple more inches of draw by letting the handle bend a bit more
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