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Offline k-hat

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 05:22:18 pm »
that's funny ALL my hackberry staves came out wavy and snakey from a tree that looked pretty stinkin straight!  Can't wait to see the finishd product!
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 09:23:19 pm »
Welp, I'm finished making my stave ruiner's. Soon as I got everything ready ill brake those tips off real good. I'm hoping for a real clean snap this time, not any of that feathery fibery crap...









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 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 09:33:00 pm »
WOW! Thats a full blown recurve there. Nice sturdy forms.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 11:41:32 pm »
Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2012, 09:33:00 pm
WOW! Thats a full blown recurve there. Nice sturdy forms.

Thank ya. They look kinda crude but I guess they will get the job done. I will know in about 35 minutes (it's already been steaming about 25):





I need the last 7 inches of the limb tip to bend as the recurve part on the jig's is only 7". The pan measures only 9" across. So I hope I get em steamed enough to bend. Both of the cross section's of the limb tips are not perfectly rectangle, both have a higher side on one side of the back, but I would have to violate the back to make it level, so I am kinda worried if it will bend straight and aligned, or off to the side, I hope to try to hold the bow straight and force it to bend in line but I don't have the best hope's... I will be using two metal rulers to try to hold down belly splitter's... AY, when steaming in recurves, you wanna have the back facing down, right? Thats the way I have always flipped tips...
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Keenan

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 11:46:36 pm »
 That will be a neat character bow. Looking good
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 01:05:33 am »
Quote from: Keenan on January 13, 2012, 11:46:36 pm
That will be a neat character bow. Looking good

Thank ya Keenan. Hopefully it will make it. I kinda put more character into it than it had to begin with,  :laugh:. The first limb tip steamed for about an hour and 15 minutes or around there. It bent real easy with almost no effort. Wish me luck with the next my friends.



I freaking put the ruler on the wrong way I was going to, with the measurements and stuff touching the belly, so I am going to have a real clear measurement of my limbs imprinted on them...

 
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2012, 02:24:48 am »
I got both of em bent. The second one kinda "cracked" went I bent it. I've heard that sound before. Doesn't sound good. I HOPE that if something broke and lifted, that it didn't go too deep, and it can be useable... arg... if anything ill end up trying to sand down the belly of the recurves and glue down some slats, which I haven't ever done before. So I hope I won't have to!!!  :laugh:
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Dazv

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2012, 09:45:46 am »
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bow finished
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 02:14:18 pm »
Quote from: Dazv on January 14, 2012, 09:45:46 am
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bow finished

I'm hoping that I see it finished too,  ;D. After trading alot of my bows, it's startin ta feel a bit lonely around here... After taking the recurves out of the jigs I couldn't find any visible lifting or crack/break, and they seem to be just fine. Even after bending em a bit trying to find a lifted splinter or something I couldn't find anything. So I don't know what that crack I heard was... Either way I will find out sooner or later. For now everything seems just dandy.





Time to start breaking out some sinew...






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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Dazv

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 02:20:13 pm »
man this is going to be one fast shooter.
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 09:03:00 pm »
Did you check your cull after you took out the second bend? The 'crack ' sound might have come from there.
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Bowmakers are a little bent, but knappers are just plain flaky.

Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2012, 10:33:02 pm »
I did, but I couldn't find nothing really. They both bent easy with no effort so I didn't think it was the jig at first, but it could of been. I glued everything together on the jig's before I nailed em, hoping it would help a bit to deter the wood from splitting from the 8's I used to tack it all together, as well as hold together a little better. I guess it could of been the glue in the jig? I've had limbs make that same sound, and with no effort at all,  just peel apart at the rings on the belly when tip flipping...
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline DRon knife

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2012, 12:04:27 am »
Very clever jig Knots,I wanna see some  sinew pics!
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2012, 12:35:09 am »
Quote from: DRon knife on January 15, 2012, 12:04:27 am
Very clever jig Knots,I wanna see some  sinew pics!

Thank ya DRon. Honest to god it'll be a week or two until I got this sinew all threaded out. It's been broken out roughly for half a year or more, but I still need to separate the fibers to make it usable. It all came from some not so good quality sinew.
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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline Pat B

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Re: Snakey hackberry I'm about to start...
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2012, 01:06:14 am »
The curves and bow profile look really good. After sinewing, it should be a screamer...and it is such a cool stave anyway.
  Get a cotton ball and rub it all along the areas you bent. If there is a splinter it will grab the cotton. If you find something, saturate it with super glue. It is pretty common for recurves to crack on the outside of the curve. Generally the cracks are superficial and are removed with shaping the tips. The super glue is just a little extra insurance.
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