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Offline bowtarist

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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 04:17:24 pm »
Eye Candy is right!!  Boy those look nice. 

Since you don't like em...maybe you want to get rid of em.   ;D

Bet that one on the bottom would do a ## on varmits.  What do they weigh?
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 05:10:40 pm »
Lee,
It's not that I don't like them. They are lovely bits of metalwork, are well made and would certainly be quite effective. They are just not quite what I would need to make a good damascus steel hunting broadhead widely available. I've sent off a drawing that I hope would generally be legal for use in most places where bowhunting is allowed.
Bowtarist,
The weights vary between 225 grains for the swallow tail head, 146 grains for the leaf shaped broadhead, 134 grains for the crescent moon head, 110 grains for the curved edge broadhead and 105 grains for the straight barbed broadhead.
Mark in England

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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 11:57:23 pm »
Those sure are pretty!  Wouldn't mind having a couple dozen of them!
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 11:59:23 pm »
Those sure are pretty!  Wouldn't mind having a couple dozen of them!

Me too, Matt!

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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 01:00:29 am »
Mark, How do you go about gettin' a couple of them cresent points?
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 02:21:31 am »
Wow! I know who to talk to when I want some D-steel down the line.
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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2011, 11:06:15 am »
Looks like I'll need to buy 50 to 100 at a time - so cash flow is an issue right now. I'd like to be able to offer them all but perhaps the biggest demand would be a broadhead that is legal for use throughout most of the world, particulalry the US.

I've drawn up a slightly larger head than the ones shown in the picture and await a reply. Would this be hunting legel where you are?



If I remember correctly a broadhead generally needs to be more than 1.25 inches across and without barbs in many States. I guess that a tie-on trade type point might also suit shoot shafts, but I do like the idea of a tanged head to go with Boo/Cane arrows. Any suggested improvements?

They would never be as cheap as conventional commercial heads but I reckon they could look very special as well as cutting well.

Thanks,

Mark in England

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2011, 11:42:01 am »
I like the drawing, but I don't think they need to be that wide, 1 3/8".  I'm pretty sure 1", 2.54cm, is legal in the states.  Ya'll correct me if I'm wrong.  I use a 125g. broadhead, some like them heavier though.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2011, 01:14:29 pm »
Bowtarist,
Thanks. I may take the size down a bit then.
Mark

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 02:08:12 pm »
 Most States is 1" or 7/8" wide. Florida is 7/8" regardless of shape, barbed or not
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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2011, 03:00:00 pm »
3/4"  width here in WV Mark. I like an 1 1/8" cutting width myself. Single bevel edge though. I like the looks of the concave shoulders better than the straight. Oops, probably have to do the beveling ourselves. Great looking heads! Art

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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2011, 12:38:13 am »
That draw up looks good Mark.  Here in MI it is a 1" blade no barbs.  I like the tang option as well for the boo/cane/phrag's.  a 125 - 135 grain head is good too.  if there is a need for no tand I think guys could just cut off the tang portion, no?  I know I'd take 1/2 - 1 dozen of em.

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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2011, 06:10:35 am »
I've drawn up a few alternative smaller shapes.



Simple straight edge, just over an inch wide.



Same size but a more gracefull curved cutting edge.

Due to the work needed to make the basic Damascus steel material and then hand forge these heads they will never be cheap. Still, when funds allow I think I'll get a hundred made and put them in my ebay shop. I like the idea of a damascus steel head on a tonkin bamboo arrow flying through the woods in hunting season. :>)

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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2011, 11:56:58 am »
Nice looking drawings.  There is a knife company in Finland called Martini that has a layered steel knife that they stamp out of a sheet of layered steel, not quite damascus, but similar.  Maybe you could look into something like that an keep the costs down some.  Just a thought.
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Re: "Perfect" damascus steel broadhead for boo/cane arrows?
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2011, 05:54:54 pm »
I have some made by Doug Campbell that are awesome-I do not know if he makes or sells them anymore probably you could find his website and ask.