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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 09:01:13 pm »
TBIII on the glue up. Not sure there in anything to do but saw of as much of the hickory as possable then sand down to the ipe.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 09:09:07 pm »
I have steamed off a hickory back before that was glued withTBIII, it came off easy. Ipe needs some serious wiping with lots of acetone, untill the yellow/brown oil stops coming off on the rag, then glue immediately.before it oozes back out....,its oily stuff...

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 09:10:52 pm »
 Use your heat gun, Tightbond will let go pretty easy with heat. Especially with Ipe.
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 01:48:37 am »
I will give it a go with the heat gun tomorrow night. My boss is coming over & using my shop for a project so I can be in the corner trying to get the hickory off.

Great suggestions fellas. Really appreciate all the help.

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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 05:51:23 pm »
Had some second thought about the heat gun. I am thinking about steam. Less chance of fire and I need to build a steam setup for the Hackberry project I have going.

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Offline sailordad

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2011, 05:54:30 pm »
bevan, just use your heat gun
just make sure there is no wood shavings/saw dust in the direct area your working
once you get that backing heted upto about 150* (internal temp)
that suckker will come right off no problems
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2011, 06:07:27 pm »
I'll try Tim, but if I torch my NEW shop, I will never hear the end of it.   :P
I assume I need to apply the heat to backing side?

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2011, 07:03:24 pm »
yes to the back side
i do this in my basement work shop
i still live in the same house and with the same wife  ;D
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2011, 07:11:01 pm »
Tim,
Since it is a hickory backing I am heating, should I put a piece of meat on it and handle supper at the same time  ;D

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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic' ...Found the tic!
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2011, 12:54:53 am »
Used heat gun to remove the backing. glue joint looked good but I did find a splinter, on the INSIDE layer of the backing. :P

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2011, 11:50:09 am »
I'm surprised at that.  I've done several and haven't seen that happen.  Was that backing strip sanded smooth on both sides before the glue up?  I always sand the things out smoothly and lightly sand off the sides of the strip before I do any tillering.  Good luck, hope it works out for you.
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2011, 12:02:14 pm »
I had run the backing through my planner then gave it a good sanding then cleaned both the backing and ipe being used for the belly. Then glued with TBIII. I think the original thought I had is the correct one. This is heartwood hickory and is much more 'brittle' than the hickory I am used to using. When I questioned it to the supplier I got it from, I was given the 'we have been using this for years and never had an issue' song and dance. Well lesson learned, not using ANY of their products again.

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Re: Hearing 'tic, tic'
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2011, 12:50:59 pm »
Hmm.  I don't know.  I've made several bows with half sap/half heart wood and didn't have that happen.  It's odd, I think.
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