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Offline Gary Mac

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Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« on: December 12, 2010, 08:46:42 pm »
Hi All

If you own a copies of 'The Traditional Bowyers Bible,' Look at page 230 - Volume 3 (Wooden Arrows Section)

There is a picture of the way arrows travel towards a target in relation to weak or stiff spines.

I was wondering if this explanation is wrong. It does not say if we are to assume RH or LH archer but we assume right
unless otherwise stated.

I was always under the impression for a RH archer, Stiff arrows impact 'left' and weak arrows impact 'right.'

here is the exact quote of what the picture explanation says, including a scan of the pic in case you don't have the book:

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Quote:
Arrow spine as it relates to archer's paradox, or bending around the handle of a non-centre-shot bow. 
A ) the arrow hasn't enough spine, or is to limber and shoots left.
B ) the arrow has to much spine, or is to stiff, and shoots right.
C ) arrow spined correctly bends around the handle and flies straight to the target.



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So there you have it and i'm confused. I always thought stiff arrows went left and weak arrows went right in the case of a RH archer?
Am I missing something really obvious here?

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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 08:56:56 pm »
 I believe what they mean is the orientation of the fletchings.
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 08:58:36 pm »
Yep, the author got it backwards. Although an overly weak arrow CAN impact left........Art

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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 09:03:57 pm »
Cheers artcher1, I thought I was going mad or something!

Maybe the author is a lefty and didn't realize?

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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 09:34:13 pm »
mullet, you mean like paper tuning, when the fletchings are leaning to the left if the spine is too great?  just to be clear..  cause that would explain the picture with the caption..
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 09:49:41 pm »
aero, yes. That's what I was meaning.
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 10:36:41 pm »
It is pretty obvious they meant right handed since they show the arrow going around the left of the riser. I remember reading that when the book first came out and getting really confused by it. Im with Art, it is backward.
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 07:56:48 am »
Too stiff fly left. To light fly right. (right hand bow) A need for that page in the book, is to have it revised. If you shoot arrows this happens all the time, and right away you know the arrow is over or under spined
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 08:00:02 am »
Hi Mullet

The chapter definately refers to the actual flight impact in relation to the target and not the arrow lean or fletching, but I know where you are coming from though.

I have tracked down the author of that particular chapter in the book: Gabriela Cosgrove at Kustom King Arrows. I sent an email this morning asking about this
part of her article.

If I recieve a response, I will gladly paste her reply in this thread.

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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 02:46:57 pm »
Reply from the Author:

You are absolutely correct.

If you are right handed, and your arrow is over spined for your bow, the arrow will “hit” to the left.

As my husband and I are both lefties, the description correlates to our shooting practice.

Sorry for the confusion.

That is an error in the chapter.

Sincerely, Gabriela

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 03:11:04 pm »
Reply from the Author:



As my husband and I are both lefties, the description correlates to our shooting practice.

Sorry for the confusion.

That is an error in the chapter.

Sincerely, Gabriela


Yet her drawing clearly depicts a right handed shooter...........Art

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 07:53:08 pm »
everyone makes mistakes......exspt me ::) ;D
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2010, 02:04:21 pm »
Maybe they use Thumb Rings? ???
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Re: Bowyers Bible Arrow Impact Explanation - Is it wrong?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2010, 05:14:53 pm »
Would you need right hand or a left hand arrows using a thumb Eddie O:)? Art