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Offline straightarrow

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breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« on: September 13, 2010, 07:47:22 am »
I've working on a HHB bow for my girlfriend. Before I started the bow we discussed a draw weight and decided on 40@26. During the tillering process i never drew the bow past the intended target weight. After I tillered it out to her draw and hit 40#'s dead on she shot the bow. I noticed she wasn't getting full draw and there was a little bit of a struggle. I decided at that point to make the bow a little lighter......but also breaking the rule of thumb of drawing past the intended target weight. My question is.....What is the consequences of breaking this rule.....?????

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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2010, 08:12:14 am »
Nothing, I think what that means if as you begin and especially at the early stages.What you are doing won't cause any noticeable problems.  :)
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 09:45:27 am »
That rule really only pertains to going over your intended weight...I don't believe that if you went back and retillered it to a slightly lighter Draw Weight..and even a little longer Draw Length that this would stress the Bow in the Least....JMO
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 10:53:50 am »
yeah, just think of it as making the bow 40@28 instead of 40@26... even if you aren't gonna pull it to 28.   :)
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 11:11:31 am »
Nothing but for the record, I don't even hit draw weight until 24-25 in. Then I ease it to 26 in while shooting. Jawge
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 12:02:06 pm »
Thanks guys for the input. Thanks Josh..... thinking of it that way puts things into perspective. You got my wheels spinning a little, Jawge...What is the reason for easing into 26"??? Is it to make final adjusts to the tiller? I actually was thinking of tillering to a few inches under then shooting at short draw to see if the tiller changes.....on my next bow. Is this your reason or is there something else I'm missing

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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 02:13:47 pm »
Remember the old adage 'rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools'.
It doesn't do any harm to overshoot the final weight a little once the bow has been tillered a good bit unless you are building a bow right on the limit of maximum performance. Afterall you'd expect a few inches of extra draw length built in for safety (or over enthusiastic flight shooting :o).
I'd think overdrawing early in the tillering process or when the wood is green is more detramental.
Reducing draw weight is less likely to harm a bow than trying to squeeze out extra weight by shortenning, reflexing etc.
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 03:54:51 pm »
Jon, that way I ease into full draw without stressing the bow much. Note that I don't even hit target weight until 25 in. That way I have extra weight for sanding, etc at 26 in. I don't believe in horsing in a tiller. I like to think I coax a bow to tiller. :) Jawge
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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 03:59:18 pm »
   I agree with you Jawge, a little patience really pays off. Rules only matter if something goes wrong, if nothng goes wrong you are fine. Steve

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Re: breaking a rule of thumb...looking for input
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 08:47:07 am »
Thank you guys...This was the first time i've been in the situtation when a bow was too heavy for the shooter and I wasn't sure if it caused damage to the bow. Your input has been useful jawge, Josh, steve and del. I have allowed three pounds for sanding on my prior bows.....Anyhow the bow is turning a out great!!!.....I got a few more coats of finish..I will post it soon. I am really excited about this one. The bow is my first reflex/deflex and the first time I applied snake skins. Its another Hop Hornbeam....man...I love that wood

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