well, i'm going to test that this morning. i'm taking "two deer" to a new 3-D range that opens today. it's about 100 miles from here and it was set up by a traditional archery club that a friend on the german archery forum started about a year ago. it was ready about half a year ago but a storm wiped out half the trees on the lot, so they had to start over. the intriguing part is that they made all the targets themselves.