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Offline Dano

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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 08:31:28 pm »
I read your post Mike, ::) these were Dabob bows not rudderbows.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2010, 08:52:18 pm »
I read your post Mike, ::) these were Dabob bows not rudderbows.

Rudder sold them for a few Years though...the Guy that made them was Vernon Olstead (sp) from Dabob Bay Washington
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2010, 09:18:09 pm »
I stand corrected Mike, your right, not a great design.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2010, 09:26:30 pm »
Yikes! That's a design just looking for trouble  :o
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2010, 10:41:36 pm »
El Destructo, that was a close one! :o  For you espeacially, and almost for me.  I tried to buy one of those super staves 2 or 3 years ago from rudderbows, and they had just quit selling them!  I thought they were cool looking, but I bet not when they come apart one you.  Glad I missed out on those!
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 10:48:04 pm »
Dano, how about a picture of the transition from riser to limb. I think the concept has merit as long as there is some long taper from riser to limb and not close to the end of the boo. Yours doesn't have that little wedge in it like El D's. It appears to be a bad choice of wood that separated under load.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2010, 12:45:58 am »
That's what I was thinking too Justin, tomorrow I'll get some better pictures.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2010, 12:51:25 am »
 It kinda looks like Mike's had Purpleheart, also, or Osage. Both can be a problem with glue joints if not prepared properly.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2010, 06:57:56 am »
i think it can be done, if done right. long fades will be important, but also i would taper your boo backing gradually down to nothing where it ends in the riser (near your hands).  give it a go.

El'D bow didn't have a chance on the point of such short fades, and the fact that the core lams were gone, as justin said. but the other that survived has much longer fades. i think this is a plausable design if done right.

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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 09:11:27 am »
I had a six inch section of limb break free of a white oak bow, and it took my glasses with it, sending them across the shop.  Whacked me in the temple, and at first I thought the blurred vision was due to a head injury, before I realized I had no glasses. :P
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2010, 10:20:21 am »
It kinda looks like Mike's had Purpleheart, also, or Osage. Both can be a problem with glue joints if not prepared properly.

Thats exactly what it was ....the Limbs were Bamboo...Osage.... Purpleheart...and the Riser was Black Walnut with Paduak(sp) and Hickory strips for an accent...what I believe happened is the Bamboo Power Lam let go and cause the Bow to Fail....JMO
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2010, 10:42:07 am »
Well, I'm not going to make a monster out of her, just around 45-50#...plus I'm hoping that the deflex at the handle helps relieve some (if any) stress at the handle fade out...hmmm, still undecided...which is okay for now, still working through makeup of a half dozen arrows.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2010, 11:14:06 am »
Here's a few more pictures. As you can see in the first one, the bamboo is the thickest at the start of the fades.

These bows did have a nice long taper at the fades, as you can see here.

But upon closer inspection I found the finish is lifting at the begining of the osage lams in the handle, so this bows a wall hanger now :-[

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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2010, 11:38:07 am »
I think it would have been fine if the Osage cores had gone on the belly of the riser with the Osage belly lam. I think Primitive1 should be fine because if is a boo backing on one piece of wood.
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Re: Boo backing have to be continuous through handle?
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2010, 02:48:22 pm »
Could it still not just be drilled and put a Bolt and Washer in each Limb...and make it like a Take Apart...without being able to take it apart?? Just a Thought...hate to see it sitting on a Wall.... ;)
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