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natty

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what glue to use?
« on: September 03, 2009, 09:47:10 am »
i'm going to give a try at making a pecan/boo laminate bow. i was wondering what kind of glue to use. i was thinking of hide glue but i'm not sure.
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Offline The Gopher

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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 09:54:25 am »
others will chime in that have much more experience than i do when it comes to laminate bows.

although i think hide glue would work and it is the most "primitive" i think there are other glue out there that are much much better from a durability, waterproof, easy-of-use standpoint. i'm not sure what everyone is usign lately but i know Urac 185 is a popular glue, it has great gap filling properties and it is really cheap, you can get it directly from nelson paint co. such google "urac 185". you can also use titebond 3, i have used TB3 to glue on a hickory backing and it worked just fine.
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Offline Parnell

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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 09:55:40 am »
I've only used Tite-Bond 2 and 3, without any trouble before.  Haven't worked with Pecan.  May be better ideas?
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 10:22:08 am »
Tite-Bond glues are fine for this glue-up(cheap, easy and clean up easily) although pecan(a hickory) isn't the best option for a boo backing.IMO! Hide glue will work too and in many cases is superior to many other glues in strength. It is messy and tedious to deal with but some of the strongest glues out there.
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 10:46:42 am »
How much costs TB 3 (946 ml). I payed about 40 Us dollars for that in Sweden, not cheep over here..
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 10:57:15 am »
TBod, any carpenters or woodworker type glue should work fine. Tite-Bond is a PVA type glue. There should be an equivalent type in Sweden.
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 11:01:17 am »
Yeah there are several alternatives. Just curious about the price..
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 11:02:33 am »
export/import duties!  ::) 
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Offline Tom Leemans

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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 12:00:50 pm »
I would use either Urac 185 or Weldwood Resorcinal (sp?) for it. (for gap filling abilities) Urac is my personal choice because Resorcinal will leave a purple glue line. Urac leaves a brown line. Carpenter wood glues like TB require a tight joint to work properly.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 12:12:56 pm »
Another option that I believe is available in Europe is Weldwood Plastic Resin. It is very similar to Urac(urea glue) but comes in powder form that you mix with water. A guy from Italy(Alberto from years back) used this plastic resin with very good results. I have used it on occasion and never had problems with it.
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 12:59:29 pm »
After my last build, of IPE/Boo, I did with TBIII, I think from now on I will only use Urac for projects like this. 

I can't say it failed, but noticed during the transition between winter/spring/summer (yes took em a long time to finish) I had glue creep.  Some days when humidity was bad, I would feel the transition between boo and IPE.  I would sand down flush, and feel it again later. 

Maybe I should have sealed the combo earlier.  But I will only use Urac from now on.
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 02:03:57 pm »
the pecan did not turn out so i used some sweet gum or maple which everone it is it's real springy. so i ripped that out into 1/4slats that i'll splice inthe handle
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 03:51:10 pm »
Quote from: TBod on September 03, 2009, 10:46:42 am
How much costs TB 3 (946 ml). I payed about 40 Us dollars for that in Sweden, not cheep over here..

TBod, it's about $9.95 here.
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2009, 05:11:25 pm »
Quote from: Hillbilly on September 03, 2009, 03:51:10 pm
Quote from: TBod on September 03, 2009, 10:46:42 am
How much costs TB 3 (946 ml). I payed about 40 Us dollars for that in Sweden, not cheep over here..

TBod, it's about $9.95 here.

Thats cheap. Good then I´ll ask my neigbor to buy some for mee when he goes next week.
Thanks
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Re: what glue to use?
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2009, 09:43:21 pm »
thank ya'll for the input ;D ;D
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