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Offline islandpiper

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Two New Laminated Bows begun
« on: July 01, 2009, 05:26:13 pm »
I dressed up some sliced osage and hickory today and glued up two new blanks.   One is Hickory/hickory and the other is osage/osage/hickory.   

I know hick/hick seems like a waste of time, but I had it, and i have liked my hickory self-bows.   I figured that a hick/hick lamination would "average" out some bad habits or weak spots. 

Same thing with the osage.  I am assuming that several lam's will over-ride any grain problems and give me some strong blanks. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 07:56:52 pm »
Looking forward to some finished pictures Kieth :) And actually hickory backed hickory can make an very fast bow 8)
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 11:34:02 pm »
Here's a couple pics.  First, the glue of choice.   I figure 40% of you will like it, 40% will hate it, and the other 20% don't care.



A line of clamps, doing their thing:



And a different angle.   It's nice to have a big box of clamps when you need them. 



The handle area of the whole stack:



There are two bow blanks in here, the hick/hick, that's the one with the handle sawn into it.  And the osage/osage/hick below that.   I put wide packing tape on one lam so that they would not glue up into one big elephant hunting bow. 

When i can get some more time i'll saw out the back profile and proceed to make dust. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 10:39:04 pm »
I pulled the clamps off today, and in a big surprise to myself, I EVEN PUT THEM AWAY IN THE RIGHT PLACE!!

The two blanks didn't bond together, thanks to the packing tape.  I peeled that off and trimmed the blanks on the bandsaw, drew a proper center line on the o/o/h and cut out a nice spalted curly maple handle blank.   Here it is glued and clamped.







a close up of the handle area on the o/o/h



and one of just a side view of the stack





Here's one of the H/H just to show the lamination line and thicknesses



and a group photo of both the blanks side by side:



More to follow, as time allows.  Piper
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 10:44:27 pm »
 Nice Pictures, Kieth, and I like your choice of glue.
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 10:45:48 pm »
I like it more more. ;DRon
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 10:48:35 pm »
Mullet, I'll log you into the 40% approve column.   I am hoping to keep the handle NON-BENDY so that the maple graft stays on there.  The bow is just under five feet overall length, so if i keep a portion in the middle not bending, the rest of the limbs will be working pretty hard.  hmmm......gonna have to think about this one a little.  piper

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 10:50:53 pm »
BTW, that spalted curly maple was scrap left over from the current violin build.  I may have to post pics of that, too, one of these days.  piper
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 06:19:27 am »
Glue is Glue as far as I am concerned,what ever will hold.Looking good so far can't wait to see what you turn out.Love to see the Violin also.Got a new guy at the club that just finished his first selfbow
that has built some Violins and he was worried about patients.  :)
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 09:51:32 am »
Piper, I used plastic resin after a bowyer from Italy(Alberto) suggested using it as a substitute for Urac. I found it very similar to Urac and liked the simplicity of it. The bows I glued up with it are still together and it has been at least 3 years since I used this glue. Put me in the positive column! ;)
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 12:07:33 am »
Ain't nothing wrong with Hickory backed Hickory......and ain't nothing wrong with WeldWood either.....I even like Da Smell..... >:D

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 12:32:47 pm »
I spent a few frustrating minutes yesterday planing the sides of the O/O/H blank.  As expected the conflicting runout, which probably contributes to the overall strength of the bow, makes planing with anything a real b***h.    Back to the grinder.....or maybe a very light cut with the power plane.  more as it develops.   piper  (practicing up on my cuss-words)
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 12:36:40 pm »
                                                       Keyword here is ...........Beltsander........ ;)
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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 01:07:13 pm »
ElDestructo......shhhhhh.....we can't say (beltsander) here can we?   :) :)

Dang belts are not getting any cheaper, either. 

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Re: Two New Laminated Bows begun
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 01:09:12 am »
looking good mr. kieth. im glad you finally decided to work on a few more, cant wait till you finish em.

guys i have the first lam bow he made. it is a short little hick backed osage, and it serriously shoots nearly as fast as my 55# pearson fiberglass lam bow. they shoot really well, and these should be even better.  ;D
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