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roofus

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Hickory Backed Hickory?
« on: December 08, 2008, 04:47:22 pm »
Would backing a Hickory bow with Hickory be the same as a self bow?
I've seen it a few times and I am intrigued.

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 04:56:05 pm »
Hmmmmm...is a taco wrapped with two tortillas still a taco?   Yep, but it's overkill. ;)  JMHO.
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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 05:34:17 pm »
  my impression of a selfbow is that it is a single piece of wood, so no laminations or backings.   a backing of the same kind of wood as you start with is still a backing, so i wouldnt call it a selfbow.   it may also not be overkill-a hickory board with poor grain could be made into a durable bow with a hickory backing of good grain.   a true seflbow is likely to be easier and quicker to make. SOM

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 05:47:40 pm »
I guess if you glue the backing on with a bit of reflex (or some other fancy bowyer's trick), it wouldn't perform like a selfbow....but this is a fun question.  I know that backing is backing and laminations are laminations, but the end result is very similar to (if not exactly like) a self bow.

I think you should try it if it interests you....and I don't think too many self-bow people would get upset with the idea of you shooting alongside of them.... ;D
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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 07:14:07 pm »
Well, I have'nt decided what to use for my hunting bow yet but, like I said this intrigues me.
I was thinking of Hickory with a Hickory back glued up and clamped down to build in reflex and then backing the backing with a snake skin.
That may be a bit much for my first true hunting bow but, maybe someday.

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 07:17:48 pm »
Hickory backed hickory is popular amoungst flight shooters, you can buy an inexpensive hickory board and simply back it with straight grained hickory, creating an r/d design, or reflexed or recurve or whatever. You take advantage of the Perry reflex doing this. Steve

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 07:35:12 pm »
some on here will tell ya that hickory is a poor belly wood.

ive used it,it works fine.lots of choices,i think thats why we all get addicted cause we keep wanting to try another wood/style/combo etc.
i think my next lam is going to be a boo/osage or hick/osage,never done hick/hick just boo/hick
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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 08:16:20 pm »
Well, my understanding of it is that its not just the 2 pieces of wood but the incredibly strong glue joint in there that also adds to the make up of that bow.

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 10:02:10 pm »
No.  A self bow is a bow made from a single piece of wood/material.  Any bow that is backed would be considered a composite bow.

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 10:48:12 pm »
I think Badbill is correct about the glue line. That alone adds a few pounds because the 2 parts are working against each other at the glue line. Hickory backed hickory makes a good combo but humidity can be a problem. Hickory backed osage makes an excellent combo and goes together simply. Pat
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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 11:02:57 pm »
Hickory backed osage is my favorite combo. Steve

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 05:22:44 am »
As we are already on the topic.....

What do you think, if a backing of less tension strong wood is placed as backing on hickory than hickory itself?
Say ash wood or maple?

Wouldn't this indeed be a better combination?
I would think hickory overpowers itself, so a lesser tension wood on the back would equal out with its compression strength....


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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 08:05:56 am »
Nope laminated is still Laminated....but unless you were really scared of some serious Flaw in the Hickory....or it is a Board with some runoff....I don't see the need in backing it.........JMO
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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 08:56:13 am »
Speaking of selfbows. Would a bow made from a stave backed with sinew be considered a selfbow? Fran

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Re: Hickory Backed Hickory?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2008, 10:34:03 am »
uh oh this could get ugly Im just gonna watch :D
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