Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: salad days on November 11, 2008, 03:35:09 pm
-
Went out to my best stand today and I could tell something wasn't right before I was half way out there. My trail was wider with many broken sticks and branches and I have been VERY careful not to disturb the area too much all season. Its funny how tuned in your insticts get after a month of hunting. I new 10 minutes into my morning sneek in that someone else had carelessly trampled my trail and that my favorite treestand was probably gone. Sure enough it was. Also sure enough someone has a new stand hung about 50 yards further down the natural funnel between the two marshes. They will more than likely kill one or both of the nice swamp bucks I've been chasing all season on Saturday morning which is the opening day of the Michigan firearm deer season. I had a great chance a week ago on one of these bucks but just could not get a clear shot and saw the other bigger one chasing five does across the swamp. Does this kind of crap happen everywhere or is it just a Michigan thing? This is the second stand i've had stolen in two years. Where have the sportsman gone?
-
Yep, Poo Poo happens. It seems that some think that it is first come, first serve. They see a nice stand, and if it is not occupied, then they just assume that is there for them.
Wayne
-
When i was in KS. i had a hang on stolen and they left the climbing sticks that were worth more then the stand.. some ppl..
-
Takes balls to hang one back up in the same area you stole one from though don't it. I'd be sitting in his stand come first light on opening day of gun season. Is this on public or private land? You know its illegal to leave a stand up over night in most state owned public land. At least it is in PA and OH. Also you can not cut or damage tree's in anyway. Just something to think about. I've had several stands stolen over the years but, not for a long time. I'm very careful about leaving them in a place where they wont be seen by other hunters.
-
These fools around here stole my sticks too. They left my strap that holds my harness up in the tree. I almost left my backpack up there the other night and decided at the last minute to take it with me. What erks me even more than my stand being gone is that my prime spot is now ruined, for me anyway. I did all the work scouting it out, finding the rub lines, scrapes, patterned two nice bucks, passed on a bunch of does to get a chance at the boss and had a theif take it all away from me. I'm feeling sour grapes today for sure.
-
In Michigan you can hang stand two week before the season starts and it has to be out of the woods by two weeks after it closes. Its is also illegal to harm the tree in any way. I thought hunting in that spot for firearm season but then I'm gonna get in a fight out in the woods with a guy with a gun and no ethics. I'll pass.
-
Michigan is bad and the UP is no exception, had my own bad experience on private land this year >:(
The flood of hunters ::) from down below into the UP is starting now, expect a bumper crop this year with the baiting
ban in place down there. I feel for ya.
-
Takes balls to hang one back up in the same area you stole one from though don't it. I'd be sitting in his stand come first light on opening day of gun season. Is this on public or private land? You know its illegal to leave a stand up over night in most state owned public land. At least it is in PA and OH. Also you can not cut or damage tree's in anyway. Just something to think about. I've had several stands stolen over the years but, not for a long time. I'm very careful about leaving them in a place where they wont be seen by other hunters.
yup,same same here in MN also,i wouldn't sit in his stand,guaranteed argument/confrontation with some armed dude,thanks but no thanks.
instead,what i would do if it was on public land is get a few guys together,a case of beer. sit there and drink it, and everytime someone had there fill and needed to empty a bladder
have them do it down the trails and funnels going to his stand,all around his stand etc. and then go out there durng the morning and evening and walk and talk and just be there,cause if it is public land you have the right to be there even if your not hunting.
just my 2 cents on it,dirty rotten thieving bastards.
peace,
tim
-
I'm thinkin my Llewelin setter might have a good day of grouse hunting Friday. I been setting up in that tree watching grouse walk around for weeks. They like the same kind of cover swamp bucks like. ;D If I'm real lucky I could bag a limit of pats and maybe feel like a little justice has been served.
-
I had it happen to me a few years ago. I hunt mostly public land and it's worse during turkey season. You only want a bird to gobble once.
Anyway one of the Universities did a study and found out that deer can't really tell the difference between human or deer urine. But when the dude not only stole my stand he set it back up for him to use not very far away. It was an old stand, I took a dump in it. I would have liked to have been there when he got in it in the dark:o
-
Now there is a place for a hidden camera! I guess that beats the cigarette butts, and diesel fuel rags, in the area, that I would use. Yepher, Eddie, that would have been something to see. Too bad you didn't have the distinguishing marks of a big ol buck to hang on it also. Just sort of a little kicker for him. He was probably trying to figure out where that odor was coming from, as he was climbing up to it in the dark. Lets just hope he was eager to sit down......
Wayne
-
I had two of my Feeders and 3 Game Cameras stolen last Year on a Private Lease....so it ain't just Da You-Pee and Minny-Soda....it's everywhere....the quality of Sportsman has gone to Sh%t in a Handbasket in the last 10 years....cant trust a soul out there barely
-
yup i dont even leave my ground blind behind when i go spot and stalk when i am hunting on public land anymore.
people will damn near steal it from you when your inside of it on public land,makes spot and stalk hunting harder,but i have been getting real
creative with burying gear so that i dont have to carry it all the time, a gps is real handy when it comes to finding it again.
its a shame these days when you cant even trust the other hunters to not rob ya blind in the woods.
tim
-
Go to a barber shop or hair salon and get a big bag of hair. Fill panty hose stockings with it and hang them around his stand.
Human hair contains a lot of scent, won't be many deer passing close by for a while. ;D
-
Aaron That totally sucks. >:(. I had my stand stolen on state land ouside the Soo a bit. I hope that the idiot that stole it falls out the first time he sits in it.
-
here is the sollution. just remember, he started it.
1. start peeing on his corn.
2. dump amonia on his stand.
3. when ya gotta go, go real close to his stand.
4. do anything els you can to mess up his hunting.
-
I like Eddie's answer to that problem...... ;D ;D >:D >:D ;D ;D
-
Ya it happens all over.
And if something should be on his seat the next morning. You know the stuff dogs like to roll in.
Now that would be a rude awakening at o dark thirty in the morning. >:D ;D ;D
I had a guy set up a stand not more then 40yrds from mine, mine wasn't stolen but still PO-ed after being there for a month.
I was tempted to use my chain and padlock on his stand.
I've yet to figure out that type of person.
Good luck with the rest of your season.
Don
-
Around here you can't say much about a good spot. If you do the next time you go back they'll be someone sitting there. Private property or not. I killed a nice buck last season and their has been a guy sitting there every day this rifle season. I'd sit underneath his tree like I never knew he was there.
-
October Michigan law requires the owners name and address on the stand if his name ain't on it I would take a sharpie and write your name and address on
it, then get the DNR out there while he's in it. This way you get a new stand and he gets a rude awaking. If you disturb him in any other way while he's
hunting no doubt he will invoke the Hunter Harassment law and you will be the one in trouble.
-
In 1985, I arrowed a Doe and backed out of the woods to get a friend to help locate & drag it. While we were back in there looking, we heard a vehicle come down the road & stop. It left within 5 minutes & I thought it was just the farmer at his house. When we found the blood trail, we followed it (easily) and found a gut pile & my broken arrow. On the way back out I stopped to get my stand & it was gone! I was all grades of pi$$ed and have not been back to that property since. It makes me mad to this day to even think about it. If I had come across the thieves, I would have skewered them.
Jim
-
Mullet, you beat me to it. The old racoon latrine trick sends an excellent message. I like the chainsaw trick too with or without the dispicable coward in it at the time. Stealing stands is just wrong!
Tracy
-
Hardaway, I had the same thing happen to me with a small buck once quite a few years ago. Blood trail got sparse came up on a fresh steaming gut pile 50 yards away from where I ran outa blood. Talk about pissed off. Why would some one do that ? What possible thrill could it be to take a deer someone else shot? ::)
-
Worst thing about is that the worse the economy around here gets, the more of this crap happens. By the end of the winter last year you couldn't find a place on state land to park that didn't have a deer carcass with the hind quarters and back straps cut out. All is not lost on my season though. Today I went out to another stand that I haven't been too since Sept. 15 and found about 20 really big rubs that weren't there before. I did a lot of scouting around and didn't find a stand anywhere near me. Of coarse the orange army will be out in force for the Saturday opener this year but I might be able to get one early in the morning with my 50 cal muzzleloader. I think I'm gonna try and forget about those other idiots and just remember this lesson for next year.
-
Aaron
Good luck most of all stay safe. Opening weekend is like a warzone. I think you will get something. Usually something good ends up coming out of a lousy situation.
-
Sad but yes I have had hang on stands stolen but get this.I built a ladder stand out of two by fours for where I bowhunt at it cost me about thirty dollars.Have been seeing deer there .Well Saturday was opening firearms season here in Missouri.So I grabbed my trusty 54 caliber muzzleloader and headed to the woods.New it was going to be bad when I saw all the cars in the parking area at the Conservation Land area.I didn't think it would be to bad because it is muzzleloader only, boy was I wrong. Figured somebody would be up in my stand. I walked the usual route to my stand and was relieved nobody was in it.Climbed up in it got all settled pulled my rifle up. Then noticed in a hundred to hundred and fifty yard circle all the hunter orange clad hunters spaced out in a circle around my stand.But nobody was in it ,eight hundred plus acres and they all were right there.Not one that enjoys bullet holes in my body. I headed back to the house to hunt another day.It was like hey there's a stand thats got to be a good place.
-
Last year for muzzleloader season I had a ladder stand on top of an oak ridge boardering a big L shaped marsh. I was right over the tip of the L and I could hit the oposite side off the marsh with about a hundred yard shot. Perfect right.? WRONG. about an hour after daylight on opening morning I see a guy in orange stroling along the ridge on the other side. He sat down directly across from me and started looking at me through his binoculars. I started looking at him through my scope hoping he would get my drift but no avail. He sat there all day and every deer that would come into the marsh would wind him before the would get to the L and I had a clear shot. After 3 or 4 times of this happening I was mad as hell. I did shoot a doe out of my other stand this weekend with my 50 cal so at least I have some meat in the freezer and some hide to play with. I still bumbed that I didn't get to stick one with my longbow though. I can't wait till turkey season already. ;D
-
Aaron nice job on the doe. Do you still have late archery season until the end of Dec?
-
This year i was out stalkin mule der during a really serious blizzard, no other hunters were out at all, because of the weather i only took two arrows with me. whan I got back to my truck the door was open, all of my arrows were stolen, several had stone points from Joe and Cowboy and one was my medicine arrow from Pat B..I never dreamed someone would steal here in Wyoming, too many out of staters here during the rifle season... anyway lesson learned, now I leave my bear dog in the cab, should at least leave a good enough blood trail for me to follow next time...Hawk
-
Theres some low down turdly folks out there fellers. Ya gotta watch out for them idiots. >:(
-
Yeah Rick we do still have a late archery season and a muzzleloader season. I still have a pocket full of private and state land tags to fill and I love to let the smoke pole do it's work. Last night I had three deer come in just after dark and trap me in my stand for more than an hour they hung around the area. I didn't want to get down and blow my spot so I just sat there and froze till they mozy off. Man I was cold. Still allot of good hunting to do.
Hawk, That sucks when you think your alone in big country and find out the hard way that your not. Anybody out there that is bringing up their kids to be hunters and outdoors people, we really haven't been emphasizing ethics and sportsmanship enough. There are way too many idiots around here that value game in hand more than the hunt and camaraderie. It is up to all of us to turn this around before its lost.
-
Hawk- Out of staters is just what I was thinking. That is a really crappy thing to do. Just remember, that when people do stuff like that to someone it comes back on them tenfold.
Aaron. It was super cold here yesterday as well. I called in that 4pt that I missed a few weeks ago with a bleat can and some scent. I couldn't get a good shot at him though. It was still a good time just watching him responding to the bleat and smell. I still got 6 wks left to make something happen.