Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Dano on August 18, 2008, 02:30:55 pm
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There's nothing like a skinny little osage "D" bow, fast, and fun to shoot. This bow is 54" tip to tip, 1 1/8" wide to midlimb tapered to 1/4" tips. I'm still lookin for a better handle area if anyone has any ideas. I used a modified Ferret floppy rest, and stained the limbs with leather dye.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow004.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow005.jpg)
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Wow :o, very nice Dano. Tiller couldn't be any better. Bet she's a shooter, huh. I gots to build me one of those bendy handle bows.
John
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I'm still lookin for a better handle area if anyone has any ideas....
How about the KC area, would that work? >:D O:) :-\ ::)
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I love this bow, Dano. And, what about that string keeper? I have never seen one like that, but you can bet that I will try that on some of my bows. I am beginning to like the D bow more and more. I think some others are too. Great job.
Dan
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Looks great Dano, I have one in the works at about 58", hmm may have to go shorter :)
Whats the poudage and draw length?
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Lonnie ::) nice try.
The string keeper is something TimO showed me. I usually drill a small hole in the tip to hang the bow while finishing, then I just thread a piece of string material in the center of the upper loop and do a flemish twist till I get to the hole feed it through and tie it off. Works almost too good, kinda makes it a little tough to get the string off if you need to adjust brace hieght.
Thanks guys, these are sweet shooters. This bow is 45# @ 26".
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excellent tiller,love the profile. i am also growing fond of this style of bow.
chuck
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Nice one Dano. Did you put some padding in the handle bulge or is it just glad to see you? What don't you like about the handle? Looks good to me. I put some layers of cork in one and it worked well.
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Thanks Shaun ::) , I was thinking of cork too, I just have plenty of scrap leather around. I dunno I just got used to a bigger handle on my other bows, and it would look terrible to build one up that far on these. I think I'll get used to it, the more I shoot it the better I like it.
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i think its perfect just the way it is, maybe better with no grip!
love that bow dano. just luvs it. 8)
jamie
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Thanks Jaimie, Man!! I shot this thing in with no handle, I gots ta have a handle. ;)
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Very nice a meat getter fer sure.Used ta a bigger handle maybe give it some time ta grow on ya. Nice work...bob
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Nice work Dano. I just put some sinew on a 54" osage sliver tonight. Jimmy came over and did his first sinew bow last week, he inspired me. And now your bow makes me anxious for the stuff to dry.
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Great looking bow Dano. Justin
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Very nice Dano,sweet bow you have there. Love the string keeper. :)
Pappy
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That's a good looking bow Dano, how's it shoot? :)
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Great looking bow, Dano.
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Great to see, Dano. Osage really shows its stuff in the short styles.
Dave
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Man, I missed all the purty bows while on vacation - I like that one, gonna have to get busy on a shorty myself. Wait a minute, is that chert I see under that cactus ::) ;D?
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wow - didn't know you could go THAT skinny :o and still get 45 pounds! Love the keeper also.
John
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The string keeper sure got my attention :P - that's a really neat idea! Got your very well tillered bow all bookmarked, too :)
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Fantastic bow Dano. Good to see you posting your work.
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Thanks guys, David when are we going to see some of your work? Hummmm
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I've been keeping pretty close to home Dano and I don't cross post. Was pretty busy at TBJ trying to get them up to speed, last year and before I reckon. Posted several projects there. Posted some on a little out of the way place a hand full of guys hang at this year. PA has plenty of traffic without my help these days.
Back in the day I was a regular ham up in here and other sites. Nearly always had a thread or two going. Been so long I don't think half the folks who see me post have ever seen me make a bow. Got one on deck I'm fixin to smear w/ clear. Maybe I'll throw up a trophy shot or two.
http://home.comcast.net/~dcm4/site/?/photos/
Not sure what all is up here, some old and some new for sure but you are welcome to look around. Have recently changed ISP, so it's all discombobulated now and a pita to put back like it was.
Been on a real good building jag lately but mostly just roughing out bows. Got probably 5 or 6 busted down from bark on staves and floor tillered, couple of billet splices, etc. Hinged one so bad about 2 or 3 weeks back, pizzed me off so much I ain't built on much since. But I did re-finish a porch swing for the lil woman. Cedar and oak turned out real purty w/ tung oil. Prolly hang it tonight in fact. Yard chores, life have kept me hoppin' too.
Now that we got the niceties out of the way, how come your nock point is so far up the string on that bow? I've noticed this w/ your bows before. Do you 3 under? Tend to heal a bow a lot, or high wrist? Usually on a bendy handle they tend have a sweet spot more towards the middle. Tiller is dead nuts, and I'm sure it shoots good but I get a burr up my butt on a bow that doesn't nearly bisect the string. Worries on me somehow but I can't figure out why. Have a pignut bow very similar I built 2 or 3 years back. Love them lil D bows btw. I may measure it tonight and see what it does. Prolly just like yours. LOL
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A really nice bow - good work!
Acker
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Now ya got me thinkin David, I'm going to look into this. I see what your saying from the full draw picture. The arra rest is 1 3/4" above center and the knock point is about 3/8" above that. I'll try shooting it closer to center and see how it goes.
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"Now ya got me thinkin David..."
Ut oh! And I promised to use my powers only for good. LOL Don't overthink it Dano. You know how I can be sometimes.
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Darned nice mess of shad you caught there, is that your grandpa in the picture? No cross-posting, hmm does that mean the rest of us are cross-posters? Sounds deviant.
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I didn't overthink it too much, I just went out and shot that bow an inch closer to center, and OMG what a difference. You know after awhile of makin bows or anything ya kinda get stuck on stupid ::) I had stopped looking for a sweeter spot on my bows seems like 1 3/4 above center was just right for most bows, but not these D bows. I tried it with the ugly Boo back bulletwood I just made too and it really helped it . Now I gotta cut those floopies off and I guess I'll just shoot off the knuckel till I feel like changing the handle wrap. ;) Thanks David, now I guess we need a new full draw picture. ::)
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You had me wondering what the heck you were talking about for a minute there Lennie. No, he's my ole fishing buddy Rod. Been knowing him since we were just teenagers. He's a year or more younger than me actually. But he makes his living with his hands, which ages a man in a way that's profound after a few decades pass. Good man. Caught that fine mess of crappie with my wife. Been several years back. Great day, but a cold and windy March. Gotta love a woman who will go crappie fishin' with ya on a crappy day. Won't touch a cricket, but othern that a pretty fair hand her ownself. Cross posting is when you sprinkle your build alongs or trophy shots on 5 or 6 sites all over the internet all at the same time. Seems kinda, "Uh ok, I get it already." But I can see how you might reach a larger audience. If it were deviant, I might find it a bit more appealing.
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This looks a little better huh? Thanks David.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/bendybow002-1.jpg)
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That looks just right Dano. Good even bend, no pinkie extension on the grip hand.
Mims I halfway thought the guy might have been ol' Dean Torges, otherwise I wouldn't have diss'ed him like that. My apologies to your friend. Shannon wants me to take her duck hunting this fall, she's taking the Hunter's Ed course in a month. We call wives in the duck blind, hand warmers.
I understodd your cross-post comment, I surf around and see it all the time. I know lots of people like to see bow photos though, and some don't hit all the sites. I suppose there's an element of ego involved, however we got a right to be proud. Especially you.
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(http://home.comcast.net/~dcm4/db3.JPG)
To be honest Dano it's hard for me to detect much difference. But I can see some difference. The change in perspective makes it difficult. Did it move the nock point much? Where is the nock point relative to the center of the string? That it shoots better is the final word. I know you have heard me talk about shorter lower limb, bisecting the string and all that rot. Now maybe you can see why I go to all the trouble of worrying folks who are otherwise blissful regarding placement of arrow pass. It is my opinion that it matters, just the same for bendy handle as stiff and for the same reasons. It's just that the stiff handled bows are able to mask the difference. Also I think it's important that one set out with a particular config in mind and then tiller to that, but you know on these pics it really didn't change the bending, the overall tiller shape much at all. Which leads me to wonder whether you might be able to go lower. Just don't fool around and pull it out of tiller. Theoretically it is already in balance at the orginal (high) arrow pass config.
Still love them lil bendy handled bows. I need shoot the old hickory one I built. I generally don't even do a wrap or arrow pass on them. Just buckle up and shoot offen my hand.
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Lennie,
"...halfway thought the guy might have been ol' Dean Torges,"
Rod is from Galion, OH originally. When you get up in that part of the country, amungst yankees, they all seem to look the same. LOL Ole Rod is German, and turned me on to home-maid bratwurst. Freaking outstanding grub. I think Deano is Greek. Not sure what they eat, or that I could pronounce it, but I imagine it's purty tasty too. I loves me some cultural diversity.
I see the benefit of posting all over, and don't really dis fellars about the ego part. Although if you haven't noticed, being a naturally humble guy, bowyerin' will get your ego all tangled up in a heartbeat. It was very compelling for me, and a bit of a surprise, when I went to the first MoJam. I have to be careful still. Very important for one to be mindful of his place on the food chain, imho.
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beautiful...
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It's pretty easy for me to the difference with the bisecting lines you drew. Lowering the arrow pass 1" doesn't seem like allot, but it sure made a big difference in this bow, I re-wraped the handle with out a shelf or strike plate, so I can still play with the location of the pass. The string knock is about 1 3/8 above center, I get too much porpoising when I go lower on the string. The difference in hand shock was unreal, now I get that nice thump, without all the loose teeth. ;D
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Nice bow Dano. How does it shoot?
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Thanks Marc, it shoots good now ::)
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Very nice bow Dano, Also liked the informing changes. Thank you Keenan
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Looking good Dano. Those bendy handle short bows are a lot of fun to build and shoot.