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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: stringstretcher on August 11, 2008, 08:45:34 am

Title: grinding question
Post by: stringstretcher on August 11, 2008, 08:45:34 am
When using a diamond grinding wheel, do you have to use water?  If so, does anyone have a basic plan to build a grinder?
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: mullet on August 11, 2008, 09:46:00 pm
  You need to use water or you will lose your diamonds pretty quick. Mine is homemade. Buy a 50 grit wheel and mount it on a side mount motor, over a Tupperware tray with water and a small lapidary spraypump under the wheel.
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: Justin Snyder on August 11, 2008, 10:16:22 pm
Eddie, what the heck are you thinking. PICTURES!!!!!  ;D Justin
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: mullet on August 11, 2008, 11:18:18 pm
  I'll take them tomorrow, My pan is made from sheet metal but looking back Tupperware would be easier.
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: stringstretcher on August 12, 2008, 08:15:05 am
would love to see pictures of you guys set up
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: mullet on August 12, 2008, 06:02:28 pm
  Here you go, it's pretty simple.

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Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: Otoe Bow on August 13, 2008, 12:01:22 am
When I first started reading this post, I thought I knew what you guys were talking about, but after seeing the pictures I'm not so sure.....diamond grinding wheel?   ???  Is this for sharpening steel or does it have something to do with shaping rocks. 

It kind of reminds me of my Tormek water stone system.  Is this what you showing Eddie?  Unreduced, that wheel probably spins at about 1800 rpm doesn't it?  Water is a must at that speed for about anything.

Mike



Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: mullet on August 13, 2008, 12:58:38 pm
 Mike, it's for grinding preforms when knapping FOG.Between this and a diamond saw you save a lot of rock.
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: jamie on August 14, 2008, 01:39:35 pm
fog?
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: DanaM on August 14, 2008, 02:16:28 pm
fog?

In my business it stands for Fats,Oil, and Grease ;D
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: D. Tiller on August 14, 2008, 03:14:34 pm
One day I too shall have those in my shed! One day! (sigh!)   :'(
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: Hillbilly on August 14, 2008, 04:18:32 pm
FOG=Flake Over Grind. That's where you saw a slab and shape it like a point, grind it to a lenticular cross section, and then finish it with a couple passes of pressure flaking. I always kid Eddie about his FOGging and he kids me about beating up a five-pound rock with percussion to make an arrowhead. It's a modern knapping technique, but actually has historical roots. It was used by the Egyptians to make Gerzian knives and by the Danish on some styles of their daggers-they percussioned preforms out to shape, then hand-ground them smooth on sandstone.
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: brian melton on August 15, 2008, 12:10:59 pm

           I would like to add, that although the initial cost of a grinder may seen high.....some rock isn't cheap, and you will easily make your money back on rock that is not wasted, if used right they last a long time. I recomend #60-#100 grit wheels.

          I have also found you can use a wet saw blade for grinding, if held at a 45 degree angle to the blade. This is something that one would have to experiment with to get the hang of it, but it works quite well!

Brian
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: mullet on August 15, 2008, 09:08:02 pm
 Brian, after we talked, I tried it and it IS fast.
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: Otoe Bow on August 15, 2008, 11:58:19 pm
fog?

In my business it stands for Fats,Oil, and Grease ;D

Dana you're kill'n me. 
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: D. Tiller on August 16, 2008, 04:11:03 am
Dana FOG = SHIRT! Right?!?!  ;D (Dang my typing I ment SH$#!)  ::)
Title: Re: grinding question
Post by: DanaM on August 16, 2008, 07:45:58 am
Dana FOG = SHIRT! Right?!?!  ;D

Nope Fats, Oil and Grease like I said mostly from resaurants without a grease trap and actually its worse that poop.
Tiller you shouldn't swear on here, I think punishment is in order, lets see you have a soap factory perhaps you need to taste some >:D