Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Pat B on August 06, 2008, 09:10:22 pm
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I finished the last of these 3 arrows last night. They are our native hill cane from my driveway. 29" long shaft with self nocks(plugged), turkey feather(some secondary and one primary) fletching with sinew wrap. 3 different style 2 fletch...one a slightly modified Cherokee style, the next is the same but with a banana burn and the last is 2 fletch with my burn on it. The stone points are from different folks; the point were given to me at the camp-o-rama. Lil Pat made the short dacite point but I was having so much fun I forgot who gave me the others :-[ :-*. One is obsidian(looks like silver sheen) and the other was one of 2 of the same material. Tan in color with a grainy texture. The other of the 2 is more triangular shaped. The turkey feathers came from Greg, Art Butner and friends, and from Mike Houston.
As you can see, I have some of the best out there coming along with me to the deer woods. ;D 8)
Enjoy! Pat
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nice arrows Pat !
got my vote for arrows of the month ;D
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Good looking arrow's you got there Pat.. I like the obsidian point..
David
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Cool, Pat! Now I have got to finnish up some. I also have some to compare them too now.
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Those look really good Pat. It's funny you posted these pics today. I just finished my first attempt at a Cherokee two fletch just a few minutes ago. I'll have to wait until tommorrow to see how it flys.
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Cheapshot, These fly very well. The one on the right flies the best but it has stiff primary feathers and I'm sure that have more stabilizing effect than the softer secondaries.
David T, all you gotta do is do it! ;)
Gator, I wish I could remember who gave it to me. See, you did miss a good weekend! ;D :o
Thanks Sonny, Maybe it will get September arrow of the month in the deer woods! 8)
The weight of these arrows is from left to right ...608gr, 648gr and 612gr. I'm pretty sure the point weight has the most effect on the difference. I will be well over the 10gr per # on these. I haven't weighed my hunting bow(s) but I'm guessing 50#@26" mol.
The sinew wraps are sealed with pine pitch varnish and the points are hafted using pitch glue. The more I use the pitch varnish the better I like it. On the arrow on the left I used earth pigments for some coloration on the sinew wraps.
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Whats the recipe for the varnish Pat? Looks nice!
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David, I add hard pitch pieces to denatured alcohol. I don't have a recipe. I guess until no more pitch will dissolve. You want hard dry pitch because that is the consistency you want when the alcohol evaporates. Once dissolved, strain the liquid through an old T shirt or bed sheet to get rid of the particles of bark, etc. and voile!!! pitch varnish. If the spirits haven't evaporated from the pitch it will be tacky when the alcohol has evaporated. If that happens, a bit of fine charcoal powder or chalk will eliminate the stickiness. I used mineral pigments on tacky pitch varnish on the wraps of one of these arrows.
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beautiful arrows, pat, and lots of good medicine there. my first thought, when i saw the fletching, was: i bet, the one on the right flies best.
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Sweet arrows Pat,I got to try them 2 fletch. ??? They ought to make meat. :)
Pappy
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Those came out real nice Pat, best of luck hunting with them! ;)
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Good looking arrows, Pat. Hope you get some red dye on them this fall. Oh, I'm gonna try to get the Dupont thing going first of next week.
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Marius, That was the second set of fletching on that arrow. The first was a 3 fletch with 3 small feathers but it wasn't enough steerage for the point. As soon as I mounted and burned the fletch on now I knew it would work well and shooting only proved it. ;D
Pappy, you ought to try them. You will be amazed how well they fly. :o
Thanks Greg, I guess we will all have a chance to "prove" our cane arrows. ;)
Steve, Let me know what you find out about Dupont. That would be a good place for some red coloration! 8) Pat
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Nice lookin meat makers there Pat! Sounds like ya got all the bases covered - now if that deer would just step out in front of ya ;D.
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Really good looking arrows Pat. I brought stuff with me today and tried a two fletch while I'm supposed to be working and it turned out pretty well. That's a lot more fun than working. 8)
Alan
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Those are nice! I still have the one you helped me make (more like I just gaped in wonder while watching you do it). :)
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Great looking arrows Pat. Maybe I should color them for you so you don't get worried about ruining your pretty new arrows. 8) Justin
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Justin, The only way to ruin these is to hang them on the wall. They are made to make meat! ;) I pulled the osage satatic recurve out of the utility room today and she shoots these arrows very well. So, now I have the yew and osage to hunt with and 3 (for now) arrows cast. The way my luck has been these last few years 3 will be plenty! ;D
Thanks Armando. Time to make another ain't it? ;) Pat
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Nice looking arrows. I really like the two fletch method. I found an article in volume 4 that demonstrates this, I think a Cherokee Two Fletch. Good job
Tracy
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Nice work as usual Pat. Beautiful arrows. How did you burn the fletch. I have been wanting to do up some totally primitive fletches with no feather choppers or fletching jigs, I think a stick from the camp fire with a glowing ember would do the trick. Good luck on your hunts. Kenneth
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Kenneth, I have an old Young Feather Burner. I bought new ribbons and have 2 or 3 different sha[es I burn. I believe the Natives probably used a hot ember from the fire to shape their fletching or they cut them with a stone blade.
Tracy. They fly very well. I have been experimenting with different shapes so mine are getting farther away from the originals. Pat
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Pat,
Good looking arrows. I like the looks of the 2 fletch. Has anybody done a how-to on it yet? Looks a lot quicker than a Bitz. :)
Butch
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Awesome points and arrows. I have got to learn to do that two fletch