Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Blacktail on June 09, 2008, 10:50:38 pm
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this might be for the guy in europe....so,was there a real ribon hood or is all folk lore....thanks john
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well im not from england,however all legends do contain some truths to them.
i have seen a documentary on just this subject. they claim that they have found the possible area that Sir Robin and the rest of the merry men lived.they even lay claim to the grave site of little john himself,the remains in the grave were quit large too,so you never know. its very plausible that they may have existed.
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thanks for the reply..i would love to see the documentary on that...i wonder if any bows where found.probley not but its fun to think about....later john
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There's quite a few candidates for the Legend and none of them were Knights! It seem's every Region of England can come up with a Outlaw to fit the bill but as of yet there's no evidence just similarities.The Robin you all know (The Saxon Noble home from Crusading with the Lionheart) is almost certainly a work of fiction :).
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I understand there is some evidence that the name "Robin Hood" is found in rolls of archers ie those who were on the run from feudalism and the law and decided to join up might give their name as "Robin Hood" - in other words "I'm an archer and that's all you need to know!" Of course which came first the legend/ballads or the pseudonym?
Yorkshire - around Barnsley is generally the preferred location for a real historical Robin, not Sherwood which seems to have come into the stories somewhat later.
Stan
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Read JC Holt's book.
Bottom line: there were outlaws in history who used the moniker "robin hood", "Robert Hod, "HobbyHod", etc, but there is no definitive evidence pointing an original Robin Hood.
Legends are often based on some truth, with a little bit of fiction thrown in. As such, pinpointing the original Robin Hood just hasn’t happened, and probably won’t.
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Hey, I thought the Kevin Costner movie was totally true to life, including Robin's accent. :)
I read somewhere a while back that Robin may have been based on the Irish Fianan (spelling? Don't have my reference books here right now, but I think it is in the Táin Bó Cúailnge). Those guys were the ultimate woodsmen, and champions of the oppressed. Just getting in the group meant you had to be almost superhuman.
Dane
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From what I've gatehred, and I could easily be wrong, Robin Hood was a character based on a few archer crooks who fled to some bit of woods as a worst-case-scenario. They were poor archers, and lived by poaching (usually small game?) and theft. Of course, this led to the wonderful legend that we know, and that has been twisted.
On a side note, I have a book, Robin Hood, written about the time of Pope's Hunting with the Bow and Arrow, which in iteself is kinda neat (whilst the Brits were still singing their old legends we were living new ones :D ;)- just joking). But moreso, Pope's book was dedicated to Robin Hood, who was still in vogue in seems!
Also, even in the story Robin Hood (Robert Fitzooth) was just a poor kid, decent with the bow, who was sorta tricked into being a poacher. Anyway, he was just some peasent who wanted ot be a forrester, not a noble who had everything taked away by the Sherrif.
Sorry for butting in :-X
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What? A leader of a band of outlaws in one of the many royal forests, in an area infested with outlaw bands, and they shot deer to eat rather than starve, and the leader was one of the people named Robin Hood? What an unbelievable story!
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:D My opinion is Robin was a Yeomen who went rogue. Then got his own mob together to fight for the less fortunate. Whatever he done would be remembered for centuries. Being an archer on a battle field your bound to see some things.
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that print is too small to try and read it
or amybe my eyes are just too old to read it ;D nope that aint it either,just tried my glasses,(took out the contacts first)still too small for me
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There are programs as free downloads to reciseor to make pics etc. bigger.
Regards Uwe
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ya but you need to be more computer literate than i am to do that kinda stuf,and my sons gone so i cant get him to do it either :P
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:D My opinion is Robin was a Yeomen who went rogue. Then got his own mob together to fight for the less fortunate. Whatever he done would be remembered for centuries. Being an archer on a battle field your bound to see some things.
sorta like a trade unionist? :D
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:D My opinion is Robin was a Yeomen who went rogue. Then got his own mob together to fight for the less fortunate. Whatever he done would be remembered for centuries. Being an archer on a battle field your bound to see some things.
sorta like a trade unionist? :D
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Not really. Opinions aside, the early histories and ballads picture a man, a first class archer, who happened to be the leader of one of the many bands of outlaws that infested the royal forests at that time and in that area. There is nothing in the early info about fighting for the less fortunate { although he does help one impoverished knight find justice] or about Normans versus Saxons, or about the Crusades, or about Maid Marion, or about rocket ships. But it is a great story anyway.
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Once there was a report somewhere in german ? TV or did I read it somewhere? Sorry, don`t remember, where they where searching for Robin Hood. They found in old english churchbooks a man called Robin Hoode (Hode), who lived in the 15th cent. It should have been a homosexual courts joker, as it was said.
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I am a researcher of the Robin Hood legend, and am writing a series based on it. There's a lot more material on him out there than ... many people realize ... I can't give it all away now, but he was definitely a real person. But much further back in time than we've been taught! Audacious fellow.
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i take it sherlock holmes was a real person too ::)
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HEY ! ! ! HEY !!! >:(
Robin Hood is real!!! he was the best archer of all time!!! no one could compare...
the only one that could come close would be ....... would be....... "legolace"
but legolace is an Elf.... and elfs are not real!!!!
but if they were.... who would win????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUrOcmFxpSY
thoought id share this with you guys cuase i found it on you tube one day when i was messing around on youtube....
;D
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HEY ! ! ! HEY !!! >:(
Robin Hood is real!!! he was the best archer of all time!!! no one could compare...
the only one that could come close would be ....... would be....... "legolace"
but legolace is an Elf.... and elfs are not real!!!!
but if they were.... who would win????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUrOcmFxpSY
thoought id share this with you guys cuase i found it on you tube one day when i was messing around on youtube....
;D
naaaaaaaa definatley tonto is the best ::)
(http://www.geocities.com/athens/olympus/3808/images/tonto.jpg)
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HEY ! ! ! HEY !!! >:(
Robin Hood is real!!! he was the best archer of all time!!! no one could compare...
the only one that could come close would be ....... would be....... "legolace"
but legolace is an Elf.... and elfs are not real!!!!
but if they were.... who would win????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUrOcmFxpSY
thoought id share this with you guys cuase i found it on you tube one day when i was messing around on youtube....
;D
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What can compare to the joy of an intelligent discussion ?
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I am reading the "King Raven Trilogy" by Stephen Lawhead. He has a "fresh" take on the legend and puts Robin in Wales just after the Norman Conquest. It is a fun read.
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sorry gentleman,
didnt mean to offend... just reading over the thread and that video i saw a while back kept poping up in my mind and i thought that some could use or appreciate a little comic relief from all the history...
hope a few did like it... ;D
and i dont know all the history behind the legend, but i always grew up believing that robin hood did exist...
and i strongly believe that all legend come from or originate from "some" truth... and beside look at the popularity of the story... i mean who doesnt know the tale of Robin Hood ??? i know that doesn't make him real... but it sure does make a little sense... Robin Hood, little john, the mery men... the fact that he was a master of disguiz and the best archer known of that time... its like saying he was billy the kid... or jessie james... in a 1000 yrs im sure people are going to wonder if those people really existed and lets put in a hypithetical factor of a mass fall of sociaty or civilization where all records or computers crash and books and paper records are burnt and sociaty is to start over... like has happend many of times in the dark ages... there would be no proof of billy the kid existing or jessie james... but we know they did, but will people know a thousand yrs from now???? and im sure jessie james is no where neer as big a legend as robin hood not trying to compare just puting an example..
soo yea i really think that Robin Hood did in fact exist... and his legend has survived the ages and the test of time... to have been the best archer like no other in that time fram... i mean that is what he is known for... that and for stealing from the rich and giving to the poor... in a time of great appreation...
soo yea i think he did exist... and i dont need solid proof to believe he lived and existed it impossible to have that in record.... i mean i dont have to have solid records showing proof to believ he existed....
some people are quick to say show me proof and if you cant then it didnt happen!
and they go back to thinking in there little box!
;D
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I believe in Robin Hood more than I believe in god
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I am reading the "King Raven Trilogy" by Stephen Lawhead. He has a "fresh" take on the legend and puts Robin in Wales just after the Norman Conquest. It is a fun read.
JBL is one of the books called Hood if so I have a copy. Havent been able to start it yet but looks like a good story.
A co-worker of mine said there is a University in Sherwood England that has a Masters program on Robin Hood Lore. Joel
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i take it sherlock holmes was a real person too ::)
No, Sherlock Holmes was a creation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I am not sure if Sir Winston Churchill was a real person. Any theories ?
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Deerhunter-Yes the first book is HOOD, the second SCARLET and third coming out this winter is TUCK. First two are fun and have a nice fresh take on the legend.