Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: leapingbare on June 02, 2008, 05:23:26 pm
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I have made and hafted a few stone points on cain, i have hafted them strait to the shaft and i have also used forshafts. how do you guys haft your points to cain?
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after filling with dowel the hole. I haft them straight to the cane.
N2
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Straight to the cane, I find foreshafts to be a pain in the butt and something else to impede penetration. A couple thousand years worth of Cherokee arrowmakers did just fine with cane arrows without foreshafts. If it's thick-walled cane with a small hole, I just cut them straight in. If it's got a bigger center hole, I'll sometimes plug it before cutting the slot.
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IMO, foreshafts look cool. I like 'em. They also tend to make the arrow tip-heavy....a big plus for me because I like shooting wooden tipped arrows (i.e., sharpened foreshafts.) Also, they are easier to repair/replace than the entire arrow. ;D
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I haft straight to the cane, also. Pat
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Patrick, if you make your stone points as thick and clunky as I do, they give it plenty of weight-forward balance. ;D;D I have more trouble getting foreshafts lined up and spinning straight than I do making the rest of the shaft, and the connection always seems to be a weak point.
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That's what I've done thus far. Drill out the end about two inches and insert a hardwood dowl of some sort with tight bond glue, then cut out for the point - glued them in then wrapped with sinew. Worked great!
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Nice work Cowboy!
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Be careful, Paul-you could put something's eye out with one of those. ;D
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Hopefully that would hold em up long enough that I could put their heart and lungs out too ;D.
Thanks Tracy.
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;D
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I attach them straight to the cane also.
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Good looking arrows there Paul! I'm working on getting there myself. Shot some that Sawfiler had during the Classic and was really impressed with them. What are yall using to straighten the cane? I've used a candle so far and just straightening by eye. Also have rolled them on a table some to see wobble. How about reducing the nodes down? ;D
Sorry for taking over the thread... :)
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Greg, any heat source will work, but the bestest one is a heat gun in a holder. Keep rotating the shaft as you heat it, and don't overheat. When you see the cane start to sweat and start smelling it, it's ready to bend. I usually trim/sand the nodes down even with the rest of the shaft.
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Thanks again Hillbilly! ;)
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Steve, I thought I was the only one with that trouble. I've yet to find cane thick enough to mount my points in. ???
Hey Paul. Nice Points. Is one of those some of the Key County that I brought to the classic? I like the two tone effect either way.
Mike
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That's what I did also Greg - using a candle for heat and straighten by eye, has worked so far :).
Nosir Mike - those are the only stone point arra's I've made to date and has been almost a year. Their all Pederanales stuff. Got more in the works right now - can't wait to stick that deer ;D.
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Really nice Paul. As soon as I get back home and access to a camera I have several to post as well. I have two that I'd like to actually hunt with. Seeing two elk this afternoon sure puts the bug in you.
I'm over in NE Oklahoma right now and went hunting for some rock last night on the Illinois River. The water is up so I could only work the high banks. I found some workable rock, but nothing big enough to work down. I also found a sweat hammerstone and was running some pretty good flakes on the rock I found. If I find some bigger rocks, it should work pretty good.
Mike
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i use foreshafts,cut groves directly in the cane, and ive also "tied off and smashed the tip end about 2 inches"
i realy like the last type tho, as the pitch realy adheres well to the tip and flattens around the tip good,and then i make sure i wrap them extra well with sinew about 2 inches behind the tip, this realy makes for a good bond!
mbg
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Foreshafts.............been doin' it so long maybe thats why I dont find it a pain ! ;D Theres another reason but I will let y'all speculate what the reason is ! ;D ;D.............bob