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Title: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 25, 2008, 09:27:30 pm
i completed an experimental run of southern red oak. It is from 1 of 10 staves that i got from a log.
its 61" ntn   2" limbs and tapers to 3\8 tips. the tips are single top grooved black walnut.  the grip is deer hide that i soaked well in black walnut stain.
     i was very pleased with the outcome of this bow, the oak surprised  me, its a very snappy shooter, real smooth and easy to draw. i tillered it to 27" but i am in need of a new scale, i did the ol' bathroom scale trick on this one. it weighed in at 43 lbs @ 24 inches. so figure 48-54lbs @ full draw. i dont dare weigh one on the bathroom scale at full draw anymore since i had one blow on me a couple years ago and gave me a good scare and a knotted head. it feels good and solid with about 50 shots through it now, but old habits die hard.
     i am very pleased with it, but with money getting tight around here i'm tempted to try and sell it to off set my Montana hunting licenses. dilemmas, dilemmas..... should i let it go or hang it on the rack?
   thanks for looking- Ryan

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Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 25, 2008, 09:28:06 pm
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Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: koan on May 25, 2008, 09:48:37 pm
Sweeet! Dont think I could sell that one. Nice tiller too.....Brian
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: mullet on May 25, 2008, 10:16:10 pm
  Looks like a keeper, Ryan. I've never tried this local oak. Good to see it will turn out a bow.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 25, 2008, 10:19:33 pm
eddie, i thought about it for a long time and never wanted to deal with it. but i found a perfect tree one day so it came home with me, its a far cry from the red oak boards at homedepot. kiln dries lumber and slow cured lumber is like night and day. - Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: BigWapiti on May 25, 2008, 11:25:07 pm
Nice!!   I just started on a Oregon Oak sapling today - looks very similar.   Don't know about yours but I have just a few knots and though its not fully cured, those knots sure seem to be some major weak spots.  Have you found the same?

Very nice bow - I like the shape of your handle - looks like it'll fit right in the hand.  I'd keep 'er.  But thats me.  :)

Mike
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 26, 2008, 01:29:10 pm
thanks mike- i am not so sure about the knots, my staves dont have too many in them, any that were in this this stave were very small and didnt seem to be a problem. is your oregon oak a red oak or a white oak? i have not tried any white oak before. - Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: BigWapiti on May 26, 2008, 01:59:30 pm
Its a white oak - I'll let you know how it goes.  I typically take a loooong time to get these done, just working an hour here and an hour way over there, as I can.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on May 26, 2008, 02:34:21 pm
Nery nice looking bow, I like the tiller a lot
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 26, 2008, 05:51:38 pm
Very nice bow. I like it. Jawge
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Kegan on May 26, 2008, 06:27:58 pm
Oak's oak. And oak is always good for bows ;D. Looks like a real sweet bow you got there! Got a red oak bow drying outside right now. I gotta say though, I think you should sell it. That way you have an excuse to make three or for more from those ten staves- you know, to get over having selling such an amazing bow ;).
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 26, 2008, 08:57:53 pm
Nice looking bow.  If selling it means the difference between going to Montana hunting or not, I would sell it.   >:D I would sell most of my bows to go on a good hunt though.  ::) Justin
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 26, 2008, 09:06:57 pm
thanks for the encouragement fellas.
Justin- i already have my license for Montana and have family to stay and hunt with, i just think the "responsible" thing to do is use money from this bow to reimburse my checking account for the tag.  but like i said,  thats the "responsible" thing to do.
   if i do decide to sell it in the future where would be a good place to post it at?, ebay?...i hate ebay..lol  i cant do it here with out competing with paying advertisers. any ideas?- Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 26, 2008, 09:14:14 pm
local classified adds.  You might be amazed how many locals would like to own a real bow.  Justin
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: mullet on May 26, 2008, 09:35:33 pm
  Ryan, you could take it to the TBOF Fall Shoot in August, up in Ocala Nat. Forest. I sell some there every year.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 26, 2008, 10:20:50 pm
eddie- i went there last year, for the spring shoot. rained all day if you remember, i didnt see much for selfbows there, i did see a couple, i wonder if they were yours. i did hope to sell one or two their either this fall or the spring shoot.  i only stayed one day last year, didnt even finish the shoot. it wasnt quite the same as it was several years ago when i was goin every year. - Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: recurve shooter on May 26, 2008, 10:44:28 pm
do any of yall know what water oak is? thats the only name i know for it. i got a ton of it around here, just wonderin if it would make a good bow.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 26, 2008, 10:51:37 pm
i am pretty sure its in the white oak family. should make a fine bow. all the water oak around me is riddles with knots though, it doesnt seem to grow very large around me either

this it?    - Ryan

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Post by: ricktrojanowski on May 27, 2008, 06:58:17 am
Nice looking bow, I always wondered about building a bow from an oak stave.  Nice work.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: recurve shooter on May 27, 2008, 07:12:28 am
yup. thats deffinently it. around here it grows streight and pretty knot free.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Hillbilly on May 27, 2008, 08:40:47 am
Good lookin' bow, Ryan.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Pappy on May 27, 2008, 11:24:37 am
Nice bow,well done. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 27, 2008, 05:51:01 pm
thanks all,
recurve shooter- Give it a try, you dont have much to lose. i imagine it would about like any other oak. i cut a piece of chesnut oak once it was nice and red, but it twisted every which way to sunday, but it was indistinguishable form this red oak. same probably goes for the white oaks- Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: medicinewheel on May 27, 2008, 07:38:10 pm

that is a really nice looking bow!
frank
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: recurve shooter on May 27, 2008, 09:28:07 pm
it's prolly just me, but it looks like near the end of the upper limb is kinda goofy lookin, like a thicker area of something. anyone els see that?
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on May 27, 2008, 09:33:47 pm
its not just you :)  their is a remnant of a young knot at that spot, so the back of the bow has a little hump.  look at at the belly of the bow for the tiller.  I've already been staring at that ;D - Ryan
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Pat B on May 28, 2008, 01:52:02 am
Cool little bow Ryan. My Lilacs don't get big enough. :(     Pat
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: OldBow on May 29, 2008, 01:52:23 pm
Very nice bow. I mentioned awhile back a great article about white and red oak in the current Wood magazine available from HD and Lowe's
You certainly used red oak successfully.
We'll look at this bow again this weekend.
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: cowboy on May 29, 2008, 02:55:12 pm
Another nice bow Ryan! Wish I had time to turn one out every couple of weeks ;D. I've got a white oak I made about a year ago - deerhide backed. Seems to make a fine bow..
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: recurve shooter on May 29, 2008, 08:18:11 pm
yup, i see the knot now. my bad, thought i had finally caught one of yall on a screw up. once again, i cant find one. :P great job man!
Title: Re: new oak bow, from a stave not a board
Post by: Keenan on May 30, 2008, 11:18:18 am
 Sweet bow Ryan,  Boy you are kicking out some nice stuff. As far as the deciding to sel or not that always comes to a personal relationship for me. Dose the bow have all you want and feel right for you or would it fit someone els better?  Keenan