Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Gimlis Ghost on July 05, 2021, 04:14:27 pm
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Hi
I'm wondering if anyone else here had severe loss of strength in the shoulder after the second jab of the Pfizer vaccine?
I had a severe reaction to the second jab that put me down for a day and a half with a lot of pain in the shoulder for about two weeks.
From what little I could find out at the time it may have been due to the injection being too close to a nerve. I remember the nurse drew the needle back a bit and shifted it after encountering resistance. It felt like the needle pushed through something solid. The first jab went easily and I hardly felt it at all.
That was about 6 months ago.
When I just recently got back into archery I could hardly draw my 45 lb bow at all. After a month or so of regular practice I still have a way to go but improvement has been steady.
This sort of complication is very rare so perhaps no one here had this problem.
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I got the Pfizer and had zero reaction. I'd suggest you talk with your doctor.
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Had several reactions #2 shot of Pfizer. Heart rate was high as if I was jogging for about 2 hours after the shot. My arms, face, and chest were flushed like I was hard liquor drunk, and I was hot like the same. After all that passed I had a rash spread from injection site down my arm, across my chest and neck and down my other arm. Was crazy tired and all my joints were sore for 2 days. The injection site stayed very sore for a week and a half. Strange stuff.
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No problem with my first Moderna shot. I was anticipating a reaction after the 2nd so I planned to do nothing that day. I had a mild but constant headache and no energy so I laid around and read and slept. By the next day I felt better than before either shot. A little discomfort is way better than any time on a respirator or worse. I'd take a booster if suggested.
My understanding is the worse the reaction the second day the stronger your immune system is.
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I've read that your immune system actually attacks the mixes using MRNA, and the companies consider a healthy immune system to be a problem for the stuff. I've also heard that people with covid antibodies have particularly bad reactions to the shots.
That would probably get banned as 'disinformation' on FB, so of course double check with primarily sources. Practicing Doctors may well be the best source, especially if they are independent.
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Funny i just got a Signal text of my buds sister. Got 2nd stab. She blew up like a puffer fish in that side of upper body. Took her to ER. Doc had seen it before. He pulled out a round disc of steel as told her you will be ok but look at this. The steel disc was magnetized right to her arm like a magnet on an ice box!
She prolly never have babies? You have no legal recourse with respect to the these Vac’s!!!
HH~
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right
in this case they made the injection in the wrong place (lol) (lol) (lol)
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Some people will have a bad reaction, some will have no reaction. From a medical standpoint, the benefits far outweigh the risks- unless, you are having the bad reaction, which may mean the vaccine is working. Every vaccine has some risks!
Hawkdancer
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First dose I had was Pfizer, second was Moderna. Had a sore shoulder for a day from the first, maybe 3 days from the second. Felt like the second one hit a more sensitive spot on my arm. I don't think it had anything to do with the actual vaccine, just having a needle stabbed into a part of me that didn't appreciate being stabbed. Last time I had a tetanus booster was worse than either of these.
Felt a bit tired for the day after each, no other side effects that I noticed.
Mark
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No problems from 2 doses of pfizer for both my wife and I
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Cunnuckistan aint never gonna open up.
Internally we are all open, no restrictions on anything in Alberta and most other provinces. You may be correct on the international border. Our idiot in chief keeps moving goal posts and seems to never want it open again.
Mark
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I suspect this will be deemed political and be closed down.
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Getting close. Ghost. >:(
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I got my second Moderna shot a month ago and was sore for four days with a red rash on my shoulder and might be a coincidence but just had a stroke Thursday night and spent the weekend in Intensive Care Unit. Had 3 more mini strokes until the Super Clot Breaking blood thinner cleared things up.
If I had do overs I'd never take it. The wife and I had it last year when it wasn't cool and we had to be called to find out we were positive. She was mowing the grass and I didn't have a clue I was "sick".
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Yer one tough guy Eddie. You get better turkey hunter!
Shawn
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That's scary Eddie. Glad you are up and typing again...
I got Pfizer both times. Had to go to bed after the second shot. Next day I was fine.
Fwiw, P
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My sister is older than I am and in poor health for many years, she had no reaction at all to either the first or second jab. Maybe that's a bad sign I have no idea.
With respiratory diseases its usually the immune system response that creates all the recognizable symptoms, and over reaction of the immune system is often what actually kills a victim.
I have a rare immune system problem to begin with. If injured my immune system can mistake new growth of cells as invading organisms. In short my body ends up eating away at bone and connective tissue almost as fast as it regenerates. So long as I don't injure myself by over doing things I'm pretty much safe. At times I've had to spend months in bed to get over a relatively minor strain. Parts of some of my vertebrae are missing leaving the spinal cord in those areas protected only by scar tissue. I have to watch my steps carefully to avoid jolting the affected vertebrae. No more hiking and climbing for me I guess.
Once while sweeping the front porch I turned too fast and lost all feeling and motor function on my right side from just below the ribs down for several minutes
Main reason I'm taking up archery again is for the exercise.
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I got my second Moderna shot a month ago and was sore for four days with a red rash on my shoulder and might be a coincidence but just had a stroke Thursday night and spent the weekend in Intensive Care Unit. Had 3 more mini strokes until the Super Clot Breaking blood thinner cleared things up.
I have a rare immune system problem to begin with. If injured my immune system can mistake new growth of cells as invading organisms
Take care of yourself mates!
I had no problems but a friend had bad red skin rash.
Apparently it was related to sun exposure. It seems that it is preferable to use high sunlight protections for some time after vaccine
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I understand that sunlight exposure strengthens immune systems.
I suspect this will be deemed political and be closed down.
Does anyone find it worrying that medicine and politics are being mixed?
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I understand that sunlight exposure strengthens immune systems.
that could be indeed true
I think they meant that it is advisable not to work on your tan after the vaccine
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Yes, i wiuld like to hold Fauci’s feet to a 15ft split cane. Saw that in Malaysia on a subject for thieving. Think he got six canings. He looked like a shark had grabbed him around the torso. Fauci needs seven. Then China needs to pay up! 65% of America says so in new poll out today.
What say you?
Shawn~
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While I respect your opinion lets try to not get the thread locked, we are learning a lot so far.
I noticed something odd a couple of days ago, something I'd never seen before. When trimming my toenails I found one had a deep very straight fissure cross it.
I'd heard of "Covid Toe" and that is not it, but apparently these fissures have been showing up in mildly ill Covid positive people and some of the vaccinated.
It's caused by the nail stopping growth for several days or weeks then starting to grow once more. They say other conditions can cause this and no direct correlation has been established.
My toenails look healthy enough otherwise but have become noticeably thicker and very hard to cut. I had to soak my feet with warm water and Epsom salt for quite awhile before I could cut them at all.
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My neighbor ended up gaining 20lbs after her second covid shot all water weight. Doctor diagnosed her with "minimal change disease" her protein level in her urine was 9000, normal level is 50-150. Her doctor also told her it wasn't possible the vaccine caused this even though it started a couple days after her second dose and the vaccine effects your body's protein production...
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Yep, that crazy nut job wants kids over 2yrs old wearing masks now, saw the idiot last nite talking out the other, other, side of his mouth now. He gonna tell you your gonna have to stay in lockdown until you have a third shot. Guy is an old nut. No way, I'm taking another after what I endured from the first two. I am perty sure I had the Delta Varient for past few weeks now. Was not even sick. Had super heavy legs, weird throat thing going on and these short duration headaches. Went to see doc about my throat. Boom, says its "prolly delta V, wanna test". I says "no, hell no". Got out of there.
So, I guess the CV-19 Vax saved my life. . . . Yeah, Right.
Shawn
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My neighbor ended up gaining 20lbs after her second covid shot all water weight. Doctor diagnosed her with "minimal change disease" her protein level in her urine was 9000, normal level is 50-150. Her doctor also told her it wasn't possible the vaccine caused this even though it started a couple days after her second dose and the vaccine effects your body's protein production...
My older sister has a similar problem but it began decades ago so its not vaccine related. Her fluids are so high that two years ago when a cat scratched her leg no blood came out but clear water began draining swiftly from the wound as the tissues around it diminished leaving a sunken in appearance. The wound continued to seep clear water for days. The doctor bound her legs with absorbent bandages that had to be changed twice a day.
The actress Lee Remick developed a similar condition . Everyone thought she was just getting fat but it was all fluid retention.
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I am perty sure I had the Delta Varient for past few weeks now. Was not even sick. Had super heavy legs, weird throat thing going on and these short duration headaches. Went to see doc about my throat. Boom, says its "prolly delta V, wanna test". I says "no, hell no". Got out of there.
So, I guess the CV-19 Vax saved my life. . . . Yeah, Right.
Shawn
All recent COVID deaths have been among un-vaccinated people.
The vaccine prevents the virus from taking hold and overwhelming the body's defenses.
As for mask wearing they should have started that decades ago every flu season.
Since people started wearing masks to avoid COVID infection the incidence of flu and other respiratory diseases has dropped by quite a bit.
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By the way, one of the common tests, the PCR test, is not actually approved for diagnostics, it only has an emergency use authorization, so just as well you said no HH.
Glimlis, you have to ask who they are testing. Early on everyone admitted to the hospital was tested for covid, so of course many people who died where known to have it, even if it wasn't the cause of death. Now I've heard from a medical technician that they have had to alter the testing process, making it less sensitive, or every vaccinated person would come out positive. At my former college they said they would waive the testing requirement for people who turned in vaccination cards. This means that in the vaccine experiment, only the control group is monitored, which is ludacris by any scientific standard. That means that there would be no way of actually learning how effective the drug is.
My point is you have to ask how the data is collected and what data is collected.
Last point, The typical home made cotton mask is not NIOSH approved and there is immense quantities of conflicting studies about their efficacy, so we don't really know if they work. Some one just posted this week about a former member here who was killed by the mask.
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Some one just posted this week about a former member here who was killed by the mask
That's not true.
These are really serious matters.
You cannot spread unproven informations, hearsay or half-thruth
We also have to think that someone always get sick so a certain number of vaccinated people statistically get sick for reason other than vaccine.
It's pretty difficult to be sure of the relation if the issue is not diffuse.
I have a mild belief that these vaccines could improve the situation and some doubt too.
If i had to take in consideration only me I would not have taken the injections but all considered I believe it's a social duty to do it.
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I got my second Moderna shot a month ago and was sore for four days with a red rash on my shoulder and might be a coincidence but just had a stroke Thursday night and spent the weekend in Intensive Care Unit. Had 3 more mini strokes until the Super Clot Breaking blood thinner cleared things up.
If I had do overs I'd never take it. The wife and I had it last year when it wasn't cool and we had to be called to find out we were positive. She was mowing the grass and I didn't have a clue I was "sick".
Jeeze Eddie, I'm glad you are alright. Do your best to stay on this side of the grass man, not many folks out there like you.
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Some one just posted this week about a former member here who was killed by the mask
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These are really serious matters.
You cannot spread unproven informations, hearsay or half-thruth
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If i had to take in consideration only me I would not have taken the injections but all considered I believe it's a social duty to do it.
Mask have never been proven to prevent viruses. Fauci himself wrote in his emails that mask do nothing to stop spread. The vaccine doesn't stop transmission so if you're getting it for public duty don't, it'll help lessen symptoms so that is a good reason to get it if your in the high risk catagorey or have other health issues.
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All recent COVID deaths have been among un-vaccinated people.
With all due respect, this is unproven informations, hearsay or half-thruth as far as I know.
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All recent COVID deaths have been among un-vaccinated people.
With all due respect, this is unproven informations, hearsay or half-thruth as far as I know.
Well the Director of the Center for Disease Control puts the percentage at 99.5%.
Several states reported zero deaths among vaccinated patients in June.
Fact remains that if vaccinated you are highly unlikely to develop symptoms if infected and extremely unlikely to die from the disease.
I remain leery of any vaccine till hundreds of thousands have taken it without major side effects. I missed out on the Swine Flu vaccine and count myself lucky since many people ended up paralyzed by that defective vaccine.
The first run of Polio vaccine was also defective and caused thousands of vaccinated children to develop the disease.
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Mask have never been proven to prevent viruses.
there are many types of masks
there are many studies that shows that the medic type of masks clearly reduce the sars-cov-2 virus transmission
it's also pretty clear that not all mask are equally effective and that the effectiveness is greatly diminished by incorrect use
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The vaccine doesn't stop transmission so if you're getting it for public duty don't
that was my concern too but it seems that the vaccines (maybe some more than other) actually also reduce the chance you can spread the virus.
there are studies on this topic too
for example have a look at this report (add https:// ) www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
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Mask have never been proven to prevent viruses.
there are many types of masks
there are many studies that shows that the medic type of masks clearly reduce the sars-cov-2 virus transmission
it's also pretty clear that not all mask are equally effective and that the effectiveness is greatly diminished by incorrect use
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZvghj7ifHMZWaGQIxarQttko-mV-pjjfnSw&usqp=CAU)(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.Qqh77VFhnIHU46QUuufO_gHaD5%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
The vaccine doesn't stop transmission so if you're getting it for public duty don't
that was my concern too but it seems that the vaccines (maybe some more than other) actually also reduce the chance you can spread the virus.
there are studies on this topic too
for example have a look at this report (add https:// ) www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html
Yes saw many people wear their mask like the guy in top left picture...idiots. My wife finds she has a hard time breathing with her mask on but she still wears it properly when she goes out.
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I have no doubt that recent covid deaths are from unvaccinated, the vaccine is made for that exact reason, to prevent death. Glisglis you are correct, The vaccine does help prevent the spread of infection. I helped get this thread off the topic of side effects and I apologize for that. Back to my neighbor, she was given steroid treatments and within a few weeks she shed all the water weight and was back down to her original weight. I don't think there were any long term lasting side effects from her condition
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purty sure doc says you had D Varient. I will never wear another mask. Had Vaccine and CV -19. Why would anyone who's had the Wuhan wear a mask? They basically are now immune?
This little guys mask looks a little like well, you get it
Shawn~
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I don't know if there is anyone else in this group like I am but I am a side effects person, I get side effects from every prescription medicine out there, some of them pretty severe, all of them intolerable over the long run.
I don't take any prescription medication at the present for my various old age ailments, I would rather die early from the my issues than suffer the serious side effects from all the prescription meds doctors say I need, I am almost 74.
For this reason I am not getting jabbed, my son who carries my genes had a really rough time with his Maderna shots. I am pretty sure with my track record a covid vaccination would have disastrous results for me.
Here is an example; I had a couple of heart stents 5 years ago, I was supposed to take blood thinners for a year after the procedure. The first one I was prescribed was Plavix which I am sure would have killed me had I continued to take it, I could run my fingernail lightly down my arm and bleed though my skin, I had 3 or 4 gusher nose bleeds a day, sometimes at night, very embarrassing out in public. The next one I tried was slightly better but made me so nervous I couldn't sleep at night, the third was even better but still caused me a lot of issues, I tolerated it for 6 months and quit it as well.
Most of medications that I have tried I would drop within the first week, I couldn't stand the side effects.
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Phil Valentine a local Nashville radio guy here. Did not get Vax’d. So, he made a plan if he caught the man made Virus. His docs would not help him with his therapeutic plan if he got it.
He found a good Doc that believed in therapeutics and would give him Ivermectin. Well, he got the Covid. Had been takin plenty Vitamin D and went and got his Ivermectin. Good to go now and he has better than a Vax , he has immunity.
So, question is what will the Fsucist do to folks who now have natural immunity and dont need Vax’s?
Keep em from work, stop travel, put on FBI watch list? Interesting to see what develops.
Shawn~
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I give my dogs Ivermectin every month for heart worm and intestinal worm preventative. It also seems to help with flea and tick prevention.
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FDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans.
While there is a moderate risk that Phil Valentine get covid a second time (yes there are documented cases of reinfection) I'm glad he's finally free from worms :OK
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That drug has had a long safety record being used to treat other desises in humans, and I understand it is working wonders on the virus in India right now. The shots have no such record and have no full FDA approval for anything. The FDA gets a lot of money from big Pharma by expediting approval processes for patent drugs and vaccines, so they are not about to sign off on a generic drug that would render the expensive new shots irrelevant.
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this is the real difficulty
you have to choose who to believe
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Exactly. And remember that big tech, big pharma, and big gov are all listening in. Keep talking you may have some vax-evangelists show up at your door. Every thing you say may be held against you >:D O:) :-\ >:( (lol) :G (=) (-_) :P ::) 8) :( :-T :NN :OK ::)
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I don't know if there is anyone else in this group like I am but I am a side effects person, I get side effects from every prescription medicine out there, some of them pretty severe, all of them intolerable over the long run.
I don't take any prescription medication at the present for my various old age ailments, I would rather die early from the my issues than suffer the serious side effects from all the prescription meds doctors say I need, I am almost 74.
For this reason I am not getting jabbed, my son who carries my genes had a really rough time with his Maderna shots. I am pretty sure with my track record a covid vaccination would have disastrous results for me.
Here is an example; I had a couple of heart stents 5 years ago, I was supposed to take blood thinners for a year after the procedure. The first one I was prescribed was Plavix which I am sure would have killed me had I continued to take it, I could run my fingernail lightly down my arm and bleed though my skin, I had 3 or 4 gusher nose bleeds a day, sometimes at night, very embarrassing out in public. The next one I tried was slightly better but made me so nervous I couldn't sleep at night, the third was even better but still caused me a lot of issues, I tolerated it for 6 months and quit it as well.
Most of medications that I have tried I would drop within the first week, I couldn't stand the side effects.
It's just the opposite for me. Most prescription meds don't affect me at all
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Response to the original post. I was the risk officer for a pharmacy chain for 17 years. Vaccine needles damaging nerves and causing shoulder and neck pain are rare but they do happen. I’ve seen one case and the symptoms were similar to your symptoms and resolved with time and physical therapy. There is a vaccine injury foundation that I believe is a quasi governmental effort that does compensate for out of pocket expenses associated with injuries caused by vaccinations. My $0.02; i have nothing to say either way about the vaccines. That’s a personal choice as far as I am concerned.
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Humens here neen using Ivermectin for years. I’ve had it from a worm infection in Thailand.
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Response to the original post. I was the risk officer for a pharmacy chain for 17 years. Vaccine needles damaging nerves and causing shoulder and neck pain are rare but they do happen. I’ve seen one case and the symptoms were similar to your symptoms and resolved with time and physical therapy. There is a vaccine injury foundation that I believe is a quasi governmental effort that does compensate for out of pocket expenses associated with injuries caused by vaccinations. My $0.02; i have nothing to say either way about the vaccines. That’s a personal choice as far as I am concerned.
Thank you very much for your interest and informative post.
I think my exercises in regaining my ability to bring the string back to full draw have pretty much knocked out the effects on my shoulder muscle/nerves.
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Good deal on the healing
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Keep healing and keep shooting!
Hawkdancer