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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Kidder on April 19, 2021, 10:15:09 pm

Title: Tree ID
Post by: Kidder on April 19, 2021, 10:15:09 pm
So I’ve got this tree by my office back door and it drives us all nuts. My business partner wants to take it out and I’m wondering if I’m looking at good bow wood, but I can’t seem to ID it and am looking for some help. I had thought it was an ornamental fruitless plum but after its leaves broke I am seriously second guessing my memory/judgment. I’m in Spokane, WA but as I mentioned it’s a planted ornamental so could be from anywhere. It has smooth lobed leaves with hop like cones (definitely not HHB). The leaves cluster on the end of the branches like plum will and the bark is similar to fruit baring plums that I have at home. What is it!
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: PatM on April 19, 2021, 10:31:15 pm
May I ask why it's driving you nuts?
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Kidder on April 19, 2021, 10:39:17 pm
May I ask why it's driving you nuts?
It crowds the back awning and leans over the neighbors fence and is in overall disrepair. But it has some amazing, thick, straight, and knotless trunks. I intend to cut it for bow wood, but I’d like to know what I’m working with before I cut it.
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 20, 2021, 01:39:58 am
Contact the city/county forester or the extension service. 
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: bownarra on April 20, 2021, 03:00:28 am
Or get yourself a good tree ID book ;)
Mine isn't to hand at the moment or else i'd be able to help more!
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Jon_W on April 20, 2021, 10:00:37 am
Is there little hairs along the main rib running down the back of the leaf? If so, I would guess some kind of cherry.
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Kidder on April 20, 2021, 11:18:13 am
Someone pointed me to an app for my phone which pretty consistently IDs it as common chokecherry. The only deviation is that for the bark it IDs it as cherry plum. Looking at my Audubon field guid to trees I do think it’s chokecherry but I’m going to watch it daily and see if it flowers and follow up with that info.

Assuming it’s chokecherry what is the collective wisdom on bow wood? Treat it like a white wood and remove the bark and cambium and use that as the back? Rawhide or sinew back it? Dimensions?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Jon_W on April 20, 2021, 12:18:42 pm
I wasn't sure if you had chokecherry in WA, that's a big one!
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: PatM on April 20, 2021, 02:09:52 pm
Doesn't look anything like Chokecherry.
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: Brevi on April 20, 2021, 05:01:00 pm
Wait till summer , see what the fruit looks like , if any.  The flower included in your photo is a good ID feature , arborists , tree sellers may know what tree it is with the photo and a branch with leaves.

Cherries hybridize freely ,  one 5" diam hybrid i cut had softish wood that was poor for bow wood.

The true native chokecherry of southern Interior BC is a shrub with dense hardwood that will make a bow commonly around 3.5- 4ft long but a good one piece stave is uncommon , splicing is an option.

There is mock orange in your area or within a 2 hour drive , very good for a sinew backed bow
Title: Re: Tree ID
Post by: PatM on April 20, 2021, 06:07:43 pm
Chokecherry is much more wide ranging tree.