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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Mesophilic on April 15, 2021, 04:39:44 pm

Title: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Mesophilic on April 15, 2021, 04:39:44 pm
I'm thinking the last thing I need is another quiver but probably going to make one or two from last years bear hide.

For a plains style quiver, what's the pros and cons of a stiffening rod?

I didn't use one in my bobcat quivers and they seem to hug the shafts better, but they kind of crumple in the middle when carrying.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 15, 2021, 06:10:46 pm
I think the rod prevents the crumple  (-P
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: burchett.donald on April 17, 2021, 08:57:56 am
   Yes, I have made and used both...I prefer the rod which stops the collapsing of the quiver around my shafts...It makes it much easier to slide a shaft out without the shoulders of a point hanging up in a fold...Also if you have a bow quiver above, it will add extra weight and collapse the arrow quiver further...Attached are a few photo's showing a loaded quiver with bow and an empty quiver without a bow...The stick keeps it supported in both cases allowing me to slide arrows in or out in any situation, even when it's laying beside me while I'm tucked in the brush...Hope this helps, JMO...
                                                                                                                                                                Don

Picture #2  shows the bow out and the quiver is not collapsed by it's weight, still allowing great access to my arrows...
                                                                                                                       




Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Mesophilic on April 17, 2021, 12:02:31 pm
Thanks guys,  I appreciate the advice and the photos.
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Pat B on April 17, 2021, 12:57:33 pm
I like using a stiffening stick also. It not only keeps the quiver from collapsing but you can add accessories like a possible bag to the stick.
This is a coyote quiver I made for the raffle table at the Classic a few years ago. The coyote face possibles bag is attached to the stiffening stick with a few thongs for easy on and off. The stiffening stick on this one is 1" bamboo. I made a plug for the open end as a stash place for whatever. Usually I just use a sourwood shoot shaft.
(https://i.imgur.com/0zTijmj.jpg)

...and this is another coyote quiver with the possibles bag attached and detached...
(https://i.imgur.com/M673W9g.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zc5FpaB.jpg)
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: burchett.donald on April 17, 2021, 06:01:53 pm
 I like that one Pat, it's beautiful...
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Pat B on April 17, 2021, 08:21:15 pm
Thanks, Donald. Your's is pretty nice too.  :OK
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Mesophilic on April 18, 2021, 01:27:39 pm
Thanks for those close ups, Pat, I finally see how the strap attaches.
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: BowEd on April 21, 2021, 09:24:18 am
Nice sets fellas.Here's another version Mesophillic.
Ties strings are sewn in the seam of the bow case so it can be tied onto the stiffening rod.
(https://i.imgur.com/55uQbX5.jpg)
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 21, 2021, 01:25:02 pm
Really nice work on all those!  Got to get busy and make a couple?
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Mesophilic on April 22, 2021, 01:39:28 am
Nice sets fellas.Here's another version Mesophillic.
Ties strings are sewn in the seam of the bow case so it can be tied onto the stiffening rod.
(https://i.imgur.com/55uQbX5.jpg)

I really enjoy seeing your work, Ed.  I wish we were closer cause I'd come over and mow your lawn, chop some firewood,  and maybe even wash your car just to watch you work.  Same deal for Donald and Pat  ;D
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: BowEd on April 23, 2021, 08:38:21 am
A gracious offer Mesophilic and thanks but then being retired I would'nt have anything to do to keep me out of trouble.....Ha Ha.
Your welcome to stop over anytime you can work it out.
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 23, 2021, 01:20:13 pm
Got a piece of elk, and a full cased red fox hide that would be neat!  Seems like either JEB, or jp51(?) posted a build along here not too long ago.  Have to look in Jim Hamm's book as well.  Of course, finding my round tuit and stay withit to get the job done timely; in addition to mowing, planting and tending the garden, hunting and fishing, and the inevitable "do list"!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: AndrewS on April 23, 2021, 04:53:39 pm
...the quiver of Ötzi had a stiffening rod and the usefulness of such has not changed for millennia.

Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: BowEd on April 25, 2021, 09:34:18 am
   Yes, I have made and used both...I prefer the rod which stops the collapsing of the quiver around my shafts...It makes it much easier to slide a shaft out without the shoulders of a point hanging up in a fold...Also if you have a bow quiver above, it will add extra weight and collapse the arrow quiver further...Attached are a few photo's showing a loaded quiver with bow and an empty quiver without a bow...The stick keeps it supported in both cases allowing me to slide arrows in or out in any situation, even when it's laying beside me while I'm tucked in the brush...Hope this helps, JMO...
                                                                                                                                                                Don

Picture #2  shows the bow out and the quiver is not collapsed by it's weight, still allowing great access to my arrows...
                                                                                                                       
It's a good use of the varmints and critters just as the native americans did long ago.Without that siffener broadheads get hung up exiting for me while hunting.Not so much with field tips.
Title: Re: Quivers, stiffening rod vs no rod?
Post by: wooddamon1 on June 24, 2021, 07:19:12 pm
Beautiful work, guys. Love em all. If I ever shoot a coyote with my bow it's destined for a quiver.