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Title: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: catfishon on May 06, 2008, 11:07:32 pm
after making the static that came out light, and breaking my cherry /hickory . i just needed to make a shooter!  its a 65" osage  and pulls 55 @ 27" . i'll post some pics as soon as i make it look purty ;D
im also going to try sinew on the static to see if i can get it where it needs to be ,and i've got a red cedar & hickory glued up . oh yea i also need to get the bark and sapwood off all my osage, plus practice for our state shoot in 2 weeks!   THIS DAMN  HOBBIE TAKES ALL MY FREE TIME!!! ......LOL
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: n2everythg on May 06, 2008, 11:16:03 pm
WHOOPEEE!!!!

I remember the feeling of the first one that shot right... well at least shot.  :D

Let me be the first to offer you a hearty CONGRADS!!!!

Now where are the pics..

n2
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 06, 2008, 11:28:12 pm
cat, that is fantastic. Congratulations on your first bow. Jawge
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: catfishon on May 07, 2008, 06:44:14 am
not my 1st bow guys ! its more like 7 or 8...lol
 just been having a run of bad luck with the bow making latley .
and this one seems to really shoot nice so far.
i'll get it all finished up and post some pics befor i give it away this weekend .
man i really want to make a grumly static,maybe this will be the boost i needed ?
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: Pappy on May 07, 2008, 08:21:43 am
Can't wait to see it finished up. :) sounds good to me.
   Pappy
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: catfishon on May 10, 2008, 10:43:46 pm
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2961.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2962.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2964.jpg)
i know its not the best tiller but it really shoots well ?  55# @ 27 osage

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2960.jpg)
i also got a really good start on this one today after stump shooting with my friends .
its a 62" hickory and it pulls about 200# @ 5"  ;D
i have it 2 1/2 " at the fades and it tapers to 1/2 "
im not sure how this style bow shoots but they sure look cool..lol
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: bowmunky13 on May 10, 2008, 10:51:13 pm
holy horse excrement.....!!!!! that is a nice shooter you got..... i have an ash that looks like the hickory you have there.... its coming along ohhhhh sooooo slllooowwlllyyyy.. but anyhoo... the shooter looks awesome... but the hickory has got me hackles up
Title: Re: made a shooter !
Post by: Hillbilly on May 10, 2008, 11:07:08 pm
Good looking osage, and I bet that hickory pyramid will be a screamer when you get'er done.
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: catfishon on May 11, 2008, 11:26:31 am
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2965.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2967.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2968.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2969.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/catfishon/bows/DSCN2974.jpg)
i'll give this to my friend monday ;)
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: El Destructo on May 11, 2008, 11:32:20 am
Looks nice Catfish....................and it don't have a Store Bought String either.....I am proud of Ya there!! The Tiller.....from what I can see of the Two Limbs (LMAO) ....seems to be great.....NO.....You won't have any Free Time ....with this Hobby!!!
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: DanaM on May 11, 2008, 12:16:06 pm
Looks pretty darn good to me, well done.
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: Jesse on May 11, 2008, 12:45:44 pm
Very nice work there.
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: shamus on May 11, 2008, 04:55:37 pm
Looks good, and the tiller is spot on.

On thing though: it looks like your handle fades need to go a bit farther down on the limb. Ideally, the handle should fade out past the widest point of the limb by about a 1/2" or so. It appears that the handle fades stopped just short of the widest point of the limb.

The yellow arrow is the widest point of the limb width. The red arrow is where your handle fade stopped. The blue arrow is where your handle fade should end.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/shamus005/handlefade.jpg)

Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: catfishon on May 11, 2008, 06:41:35 pm
thanks  shamus , i'll remember that next time. what problems may this couse this time?
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: david w. on May 11, 2008, 11:50:37 pm
thats shamus that is a very good explanation

thats a superb bow catfishon! :)

Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: radius on May 12, 2008, 03:59:24 am
likin' that bow, mister...

shamus, what about bows which are parallel out to mid limb or past?
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: TRACY on May 12, 2008, 08:09:06 am
Looks good Catfishon! If I understand Shamus's explanation, You could've taken off a little more wood without any harm and maybe pickup speed. No ill effects as is and is very capable of harvesting a whitetail. Good job

Tracy
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: shamus on May 12, 2008, 09:09:39 am
david, thanks. sometimes i wonder if my explanations make any sense. :)

radius, the only problems it may cause is stress on that area.  Sometimes bows can break there.  But if it no problems have showed up by now,  I wouldn't worry about it. Since your bow is tillered really well, and made of osage, I doubt it there will be any problems.

handle dimensions details: http://analogperiphery.blogspot.com/2007/03/selfbow-handle-dimensions.html

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shamus, what about bows which are parallel out to mid limb or past?

That's a very popular style of bows these days (Holmegarrds, modified meare heathes, etc). They work pretty well on woods that need that extra width at midlimb. On those woods, a 1.5" limb with a gradual taper is not a good design. Woods that can be, and should be, made narrower (osage, yew, and some other woods)  seem to me to better served with a gradual width taper.

You see a gradual width taper in the classic American flatbow design.

Usually a gradual taper in the width means that the bow's thickness in the limbs will not taper as much.  Pyramid bows are the classic example of this because they flare out to 2" wide (instead of 1.5") and taper to .5" at the nocks. Such a taper in width can mean an almost uniform limb thickness when tillered, but that is not absolute. A gradual width taper does dot eliminate the need for a thickness taper, it just makes that thickness taper more gentle. It makes tillering easier, at least for me.  Perhaps on those woods that need more midlimb mass, a classic pyramid would serve them just as well as a bow with full width out to midlimb.

...and then there are modifications of the gradual width taper: 1.5-1.75" for the first 6", then taper to .75" until the last 6", then taper to under .5" at the nocks, and other such variations.

No design is superior. Each has their advantages and we have to match the right design to the wood. And designs can be modified and hybridized.
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: shamus on May 12, 2008, 09:30:17 am
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If I understand Shamus's explanation, You could've taken off a little more wood without any harm and maybe pickup speed.

the opposite of what I meant.  :) Basically I just meant that the fades needed to be longer. But since there are no ill-effects now, I wouldn;t worry about it.
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: OldBow on May 12, 2008, 02:35:46 pm
Mighty fine bow. Bookmarked for BOM, too!
Title: Re: made a shooter ! " pics added "
Post by: catfishon on May 12, 2008, 06:12:03 pm
thanks  shamus . i understand what you are saying .
even if i am kinda slow at learnin ;)
ps.
 i gave the bow to my buddy today and he couldn't have been happier ;)