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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: eastcreekarchery on December 07, 2020, 11:49:00 am

Title: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: eastcreekarchery on December 07, 2020, 11:49:00 am
is this a bad idea since a heat treated belly might not want to stretch?
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: gutpile on December 07, 2020, 12:27:44 pm
humm... I don't heat treat till bow is almost finished on tilling... probably not a good idea you will lose all your heat treat if you steam now...gut
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: Hamish on December 07, 2020, 02:53:03 pm
Kiln dried wood is usually not suitable for steam bending, it snaps most of the time, or has a greatly reduced capacity to take and hold a bend. Heat treated wood is even more extreme than kiln dried. Sounds like a really bad idea to try and steam after a heat treat.

If you need to make a minor correction or add a little reflex, you'd have better luck with a heat gun. Wood can only take so much abuse though.

Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: PatM on December 07, 2020, 05:57:15 pm
  A better question might be exactly why you need to do this.  What are you attempting to achieve?
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: eastcreekarchery on December 07, 2020, 06:25:49 pm
  A better question might be exactly why you need to do this.  What are you attempting to achieve?
im working on a bow experiment. I made a small bow to practice heat treating and it took a lot of set in the process. I wanted to reflex the tips to see how performance might improve. I was inspired by a paragraph in TBBI that said a reflex deflex design would work best for a selfbow efficiency wise.
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: PatM on December 07, 2020, 07:26:23 pm
That bow is already bending too much in the grip.  You would have to address that in your experiment.  You could always try a soaking and boil the tips to see if it can be done.   You might be sacrificing the bow though.  Not that this has to be a big deal.
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: DC on December 08, 2020, 10:20:04 am
I found that heat treated yew doesn't like to take radical steam bends, like 70° recurves. It was way stiffer than untreated wood. I never broke one but I only tried it once and then I was chicken.
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: Marc St Louis on December 08, 2020, 10:56:26 am
My experience is that it is not a good idea
Title: Re: Steam bending heat treated limbs?
Post by: loefflerchuck on December 08, 2020, 11:00:02 am
One of the reasons heat treating helps a bow is by force-drying the wood. The moisture content in the in the wood should be too dry to bend with steam. It will break.