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Title: laburnum longbow
Post by: tibor on November 04, 2020, 02:14:12 pm
laburnum longbow with horn tips 68 inch long 66lb/28inch
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Post by: tibor on November 04, 2020, 02:15:23 pm
foto
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Post by: tibor on November 04, 2020, 02:16:38 pm
foto
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Post by: AndrewS on November 04, 2020, 02:27:26 pm
That's a nice crooked stick (-S
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Post by: barebo on November 06, 2020, 07:47:09 am
I'm amazed at the tiller you achieved with the amount of knots in that stave ! Nice job - excellent craftsmanship.
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Post by: HH~ on November 06, 2020, 08:04:00 am
Nothin wrong with that bow.

HH~
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Post by: Rākau on November 10, 2020, 06:14:33 pm
How much experience do you have with using such small laburnum branches? People say the sap is weak in tension, what are your thoughts?
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Post by: ssrhythm on November 10, 2020, 09:15:50 pm
I’m interested in the details too...I’m new to this game, and this is the first bow I’ve seen made from this wood.  It is beautiful!
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Post by: Lehtis on November 10, 2020, 11:41:12 pm
Great!
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Post by: bownarra on November 11, 2020, 12:09:32 am
How much experience do you have with using such small laburnum branches? People say the sap is weak in tension, what are your thoughts?

I don't know where that came from as the sapwood is like rubber.  :) Labernum is absolutely top class wood, treat it like yew and it will make a superb bow. Deep and narrow is best, wide flatbows don't have the return speed. It loves sinew and reflex :)

Lovely bow there, I bet she shoots nice :) Try and find a piece that will give you a full heartwood belly :)
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Post by: Rākau on November 11, 2020, 06:46:29 pm
How much experience do you have with using such small laburnum branches? People say the sap is weak in tension, what are your thoughts?

I don't know where that came from as the sapwood is like rubber.  :)

Try and find a piece that will give you a full heartwood belly :)

This was going to be my next question, how does the sapwood go on the belly?
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Post by: ssrhythm on November 11, 2020, 09:08:58 pm
I was thinking the same when I first saw the bow...I was thinking it was like a Yew bow in reverse.  I googled the wood last night and saw bows that were sapwood back and heartwood belly...beautiful BTW...and was thinking that this bow was built in reverse.  Now I'm noticing that the back is possibly stained a bit?? but the back is sapwood...almost the entire bow is sapwood if I'm seeing it correctly.  Just a small portion of the rounded belly was deep enough in the stave to have just a small bit of heartwood showing in a stripe down the center of the belly.  I think that is what I am seeing.  If so, it appears that the sapwood is good in both tension and compression?  Or is that small strip of heartwood taking the brunt of the compression forces? 

Anyone with experience with this wood....please post what you know about it.  I'd love to pick up a stave, but I could not find anywhere online that hints at staves for sale.  From what I could find, it's a European tree and trees in the US thrive where it doesn't get too hot or humid in the summertime and doesn't get too cold in the winter.  PNW?  Most of what I read about were trees planted as ornamental beauties in gardens...could not find anything about them growing in the wild in the US.  Again, anyone who can post any info about laburnum...please do, and I'm in the market for a stave!
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Post by: bownarra on November 12, 2020, 12:19:02 am
What do you want to know?
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Post by: tibor on November 12, 2020, 02:46:53 am
I made this bow from sapling, which was about 1 1/2 inches in diameter and had a very small core. The bow is not colored, after removing the cambium it turned out to be such a color that I like ...
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Post by: MM2 on November 12, 2020, 05:11:14 am
Great bow! (As usual  :) ) Thank's for sharing!

Michael
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Post by: PatM on November 12, 2020, 06:14:04 am
I've never had access to a stave but Laburnum grows very well in Nova Scotia.   Which makes sense from a climate perspective.
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Post by: ssrhythm on November 12, 2020, 07:32:45 pm
Man...that is too cool.  My main question is where can I get some;)
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Post by: bambule on November 14, 2020, 04:48:25 am
From my perspective you can treat laburnum without sapwood like Osage.
Flatbows in Mollegabet-Style gives great performance...

Greets
Cord
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Post by: druid on November 14, 2020, 12:11:39 pm
One more eyepleasant  bow, Tibor.
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Post by: Santanasaur on November 17, 2020, 04:13:42 pm
Another very nice one Tibor. Very challenging stave!
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Post by: simson on November 18, 2020, 12:30:06 am
Good work on a character stave, I like it. Laburnum is the nicest wood ever, you should post a pic when the heartwood had turned into choclate brown in some months.
I wouldn't make the overlays are very massive - only my 2cents.
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Post by: tibor on November 20, 2020, 09:43:42 am
Good work on a character stave, I like it. Laburnum is the nicest wood ever, you should post a pic when the heartwood had turned into choclate brown in some months.
I wouldn't make the overlays are very massive - only my 2cents.
Thank you Simson, I follow your work, you are an inspiration to me, I saw your teke down laburnum - beautiful and demanding work ...