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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: stuckinthemud on October 21, 2020, 05:11:57 pm

Title: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: stuckinthemud on October 21, 2020, 05:11:57 pm
Ok, so I see this as a yew branch with a lttle reflex, the sapwood heavily reduced in thickness but chased to a whole ring  with the belly heavily trapped
Yes, a crossbow, from 1040ad France, possibly the oldest known . It's 110cm ttt. View is side on, I haven't got a front view. What do you think, am I far off?
(https://stuckinthemudsite.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/screenshot_20201021-225415_duckduckgo980863592428033768.jpg)
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: Hamish on October 22, 2020, 06:49:48 pm
The orientation of the nocks and the belly cross section suggests you are correct.
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: PatM on October 22, 2020, 07:08:00 pm
I think you're guessing on the reduced sapwood to one ring.  The cross section at the center seems more like it's shaped to fit a tiller notch.  I doubt the whole  limb s that shape.   
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: bownarra on October 23, 2020, 01:29:06 am
It's not a very good drawing ;) Who knows without seeing it.
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: stuckinthemud on October 23, 2020, 04:56:24 am
I think you're guessing on the reduced sapwood to one ring.  The cross section at the center seems more like it's shaped to fit a tiller notch.  I doubt the whole  limb s that shape.   
ooh, that made a penny drop into place, the marks at the centre are compression damage where the tiller has pressed into the belly.  Thanks Pat. Yes, I am guessing about the reduced sapwood, but looking at how little of the crown is left at the tips it doesnt seem entirely unreasonable.
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: stuckinthemud on November 14, 2020, 09:21:48 am
Got a couple more details, its elm, not yew, 4cm wide and 3cm thick at centre.  The elm is complicating things for me; since Dutch Elm Disease wiped out most of the trees in my region, I can't get hold of any from my usual suppliers.  Any of the UK builders able to point me in the direction of a decent supplier??
Title: Re: Archaeology drawing, am I reading it correctly
Post by: Aaron H on November 14, 2020, 09:35:21 am
It looks to fit into a saddle of sorts in the center, with a faceted somewhat round cross section in the center of the limbs that taper to a triangular tip. I would guess that it came from a smaller branch or sapling given the crown throughout, pretty knotty stuff at that.