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Title: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: silent sniper on October 12, 2020, 06:21:47 am: Alright guys I wanted to show off the bow I built for this years bow trade. My inspiration for the build was a late 1940s style bow right before the introduction of glass. This style of bow was made famous by Howard Hill and his achievements with the longbow kept them alive until the glass recurve finally took over in the late 1960s. Howard added glass to his longbows in the early 1950s, but his bows of the 1940s were all-natural such as this. Here are the specs.

This is a bamboo backed osage tri-lam longbow with a laminated cherry handle. The bow is 65" ntn and draws 57# at 27".
Asymmetrical design with 1-1/2" longer top limb. The bow holds 1-1/4" of rested reflex and takes around 1/4" of set while shooting.
The bow has a rawhide backing over the bamboo to match the fiber backings that were done in the 1940s.
The rawhide was stained with black and cordovan leather dye to give it a nice look.
The bow has a tru oil finish and deer leather grip. A padded loop x99 string and beaver fur silencers finish out the bow.

This bow has a strong spirit and is an excellent shooter. It is going out in the mail today, I hope that my recipient is pleased with it!
Cheers,
Taylor

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Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Santanasaur on October 12, 2020, 07:31:20 am: Simple and gorgeous. Unbraced says it all. Very fine work Taylor
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Fractured on October 12, 2020, 07:34:52 am: Love this bow! Amazing work!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: hoosierf on October 12, 2020, 07:41:23 am: Outstanding. Well done.
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Digital Caveman on October 12, 2020, 07:43:56 am: That's it, I'm joining the trade next year! :D

Great work!

Now how do I build one to match it...
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Marc St Louis on October 12, 2020, 08:45:15 am: Very nice Taylor
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: DC on October 12, 2020, 09:59:31 am: Simple and sweet :D
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Flntknp17 on October 12, 2020, 10:53:57 am: WOW......that is absolutely fantastic. One of the nicest looking bows I've seen. You really did an amazing job of capturing the style of the Hill bows.

Matt
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: mmattockx on October 12, 2020, 11:58:51 am: Sweet bow. Your work is always top notch and this is no exception. If your recipient isn't happy with it then he is crazy.

Mark
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: TimothyR on October 12, 2020, 12:36:39 pm: Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Kidder on October 12, 2020, 01:41:57 pm: That is absolutely gorgeous - in my mind this is exactly what a long bow is supposed to be. Truly stunning! What is the front profile on it? I’ve been trying to find those dimensions and haven’t run into them yet. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Rākau on October 12, 2020, 03:35:10 pm: That's a bit of inspiration right there!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: silent sniper on October 12, 2020, 08:28:49 pm: Thanks everyone for the nice replies, I really appreciate it! This style of bow is one I have been after for the last couple years, I am happy to see it finally coming together.

This bow is around 1-1/8” at the fades with a straight taper to 1/2” wide nocks.

Cheers,
Taylor
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 12, 2020, 09:33:57 pm: beautiful.. congrats
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: medicinewheel on October 13, 2020, 06:34:24 am: Quote from: Santanasaur on October 12, 2020, 07:31:20 am
Simple and gorgeous. Unbraced says it all. Very fine work Taylor

Exactly!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Swampman on October 14, 2020, 08:41:34 am: Great work Taylor! That is a great bow. I bet it is a fun one to shoot.
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Sagebrush on October 14, 2020, 04:16:21 pm: That is a true homage!!! I am getting ready to try this with some osage i stumbled into. How thick were your lams???
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: bushboy on October 14, 2020, 05:51:10 pm: Very nice...excellent profiles!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Allyn T on October 14, 2020, 06:51:22 pm: What's the benefit of the top limb being longer?
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Rākau on October 15, 2020, 01:34:47 am: When you make these ones Taylor do you pre-taper the lams and have the tiller pretty close after glue up or do you treat as a a stave and tiller as per normal?
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Allyn T on October 15, 2020, 05:06:09 am: +1
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: silent sniper on October 15, 2020, 07:33:13 am: Quote from: Allyn T on October 14, 2020, 06:51:22 pm
What's the benefit of the top limb being longer?

The longer top limb brings the center of the bow closer to the arrow shelf which is supposed to help with bow balance in the hand. I believe this to be true, but only when shooting split finger release. When building a 3 under bow I use equal length limbs. In both regard you are designing the bow to be drawn close to the actual center of the bow to help keep the limb strain equal.

Quote from: Rākau on October 15, 2020, 01:34:47 am
When you make these ones Taylor do you pre-taper the lams and have the tiller pretty close after glue up or do you treat as a a stave and tiller as per normal?

I pre-taper the laminations before glue-up using taper sleds and a thickness sander. Bows can also be built with parallel laminations and treated like a selfbow, but I have not tried that method yet.

Quote from: Sagebrush on October 14, 2020, 04:16:21 pm
How thick were your lams???

Lamination thickness will vary on the desired final weight of the bow. These were just under 1/4” each.

Cheers,
Taylor
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Allyn T on October 15, 2020, 12:06:14 pm: Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: TimBo on October 15, 2020, 04:30:54 pm: This is a sweet bow - simple and fancy at the same time!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: M2A on October 15, 2020, 10:08:04 pm: Sweet bow indeed. Looking forward to running some arrows through it very soon. It looks amazing in person. Thanks SS! More to come in the near future.
Mike
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Stixnstones on October 17, 2020, 10:40:26 am: What a great tribute to a legendary design. You executed it perfectly.... beautiful work.
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Aaron H on October 19, 2020, 10:44:26 am: Nice work
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: silent sniper on October 19, 2020, 11:28:04 am: Thanks guys, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: 2020 trade bow- Bamboo/Osage Hill-style American Longbow 57/27
Post by: Rākau on October 21, 2020, 05:20:49 pm: Thanks for the reply Taylor.