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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: DC on October 07, 2020, 07:35:57 pm

Title: Paper testing
Post by: DC on October 07, 2020, 07:35:57 pm
I thought for this question I'd move over here from "Flight Bows". Does anyone  paper test?  Does anyone paper test with the paper less than 10' from the bow? Do you use a release when testing?
Thanks
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: willie on October 07, 2020, 08:06:39 pm
https://sites.google.com/site/technicalarchery/technical-discussions-1/arrow-tuning (https://sites.google.com/site/technicalarchery/technical-discussions-1/arrow-tuning)
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: DC on October 07, 2020, 08:27:22 pm
I've seen that and I think that's what got me started on this. I did notice that a lot of his articles are about compound shooting and I'm not sure if he's talking compound here. All my searching has lead me to believe that compound shooters use paper and trad shooters use bare shafting. That's a generalization of course. His previous article where he built a shooting machine it was for a compound. I reserve the right to be wrong here, sometimes I scan instead of reading. :D
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: HH~ on October 07, 2020, 08:51:18 pm
 No
Never with a selfbow.

HH~
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: willie on October 07, 2020, 08:52:51 pm
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Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: DC on October 07, 2020, 10:27:10 pm
I'm not following you, sorry :)
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: willie on October 07, 2020, 11:36:55 pm
I'm off topic, so thats my fault. will edit the post above
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: Pappy on October 08, 2020, 06:05:39 am
Never paper tune but do bare shaft at about 10 feet.  :) If the arrow hits the target straight on at 10 feet bare shaft you can bet it is well tuned for the bow.  :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: bassman on October 08, 2020, 08:22:10 am
Bare shaft ,and shoot a bare shaft with every group at different distances. That lets you know exactly what is going on with your shooting at all times. If your form breaks down that bare shaft will let you know.
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 09, 2020, 09:13:56 am
I do not paper tune. I often hunt with natural shoot shafts and wild rose arrows.

My 3D shafts are hand planed white pine arrows.

I can pretty much recognize what spine group a bow needs right away.

Jawge
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: Will B on October 09, 2020, 10:51:04 am
I never paper tune. I bare shaft test at 12 yds and if my arrows fly straight, I know I’m good to go with feathers.
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: DC on October 09, 2020, 11:13:10 am
OK it looks like very few, if any, paper test. Thanks I may try it from further away when the weather clears up.
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: silent sniper on October 09, 2020, 11:31:17 am
DC,
I have done quite a bit of paper tuning over the years with glass and some wood bows. Most recommend a distance of 6-8 ft to shoot through the paper. This seems to only work with center shot bows where the arrow doesn’t have to flex around the riser. I shoot mine through paper at 15-25’ which I feel gives more accurate results with non center cut bows where the arrow needs some distance to straighten out.I bare shaft tune as well, but the paper tubing does give a different perspective  that I appreciate. You can also try wetting the feathers and shooting the shafts that way to give another perspective of how the shaft itself is flying.
Cheers,
Taylor.
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: willie on October 09, 2020, 02:35:21 pm
You can also try wetting the feathers and shooting the shafts that way to give another perspective of how the shaft itself is flying.
Cheers,
Taylor.

Taylor, what does wetting the feathers tell you?
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 09, 2020, 03:00:24 pm
I dont paper test, but I think it would give you good information,, and would be a postive way to tune a bow,, I am just too lazy,,, (SH)
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: silent sniper on October 09, 2020, 05:28:47 pm
You can also try wetting the feathers and shooting the shafts that way to give another perspective of how the shaft itself is flying.
Cheers,
Taylor.

Taylor, what does wetting the feathers tell you?

It is similar to shooting a bare shaft since the feathers are matted down.. Some guys also say that is simulates shooting a rain soaked arrow. If the arrow flight is still good with little/no help from the fletching than you know your on the right track 👍🏻
Title: Re: Paper testing
Post by: bubbles on October 15, 2020, 08:02:43 pm
Ive moved over to paper tuning from bareshaft tuning.  I find it more relevant to shoot a shaft with feathers on it. I also found my tune would change when I added feathers.  (especially nock height would need to change).  Also, shooting wood arrows, if you mess up a release on a bareshaft and that shaft enters the target a bit too sideways .....no more arrow. You also need a target that will not change your arrow orientation as it enters to get solid readings I found.   I usually paper tune from 5-10 feet.