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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on April 26, 2008, 03:31:53 pm

Title: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 26, 2008, 03:31:53 pm
I had this piece of Elm that I found in my wood pile.  It was not wide or deep enough to make a regular bow but was just right to make a medium draw weight longbow.  I rough shaped the stave then reflexed and heat treated it over a hardwood fire which took much less time than doing it with a heat gun and more fun.  I reflexed the bow about 3" and it kept about 1" of that.  The bow is 73" long overall, 1 3/8" wide at the center and pulls 70# @ 30".  I put horn nocks on the bow and you can see from the first picture here that the top limb has a bit of a crook in it.  This is the remains of a knot that it had.  Besides that the wood was pretty clean and free of knots.   

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20ELB/English%20Longbow/HornNocks.jpg)

Here's some more pictures.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20ELB/English%20Longbow/Closeups.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20ELB/English%20Longbow/BracedUnbraced.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Selfbows/Elm%20ELB/English%20Longbow/FullDraw_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: jamie on April 26, 2008, 03:40:26 pm
i have a similar piece i been thinking of doing the same thing with. awesome job as usual marc
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 26, 2008, 03:54:45 pm
She's a beauty, Marc. Nice job. Jawge
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2008, 03:56:51 pm
Nice Marc. Interesting knot near the tip.     Pat
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Cromm on April 26, 2008, 07:20:16 pm
Hi, Being from the the UK this is a regular bow to me !!!! what is a "regular" to you? Thanks for your your time.
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Kegan on April 26, 2008, 07:56:04 pm
Excellent bow Marc, as usual! And the old time bow makers said elm stunk as an ELB. Shame shame :).

Cromm- most North Americaners (that's a technical term folks ;)) use a variation of the flatbow with deep handle for the most part, and Marc has made bows of such a desgin that are absolutely AMAZING.
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 26, 2008, 08:59:59 pm
Thanks Guys

Cromm. A regular bow here is a flatbow or in my case quite often a static recurve
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Keenan on April 26, 2008, 10:50:31 pm
 Thats about as pure and clean as it comes Mark ;) The tiller is right on and such a nice clean line. It's neat that you left and used the crook in the end. Just a touch of charactor. Another beauty, your consistency is inspiring. Keenan
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2008, 11:59:49 pm
Mark, very nice! At 70# the bow is hardly a toy. Looks like a pretty serious bow to me. Steve
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Rich Saffold on April 27, 2008, 12:49:18 am
Thats a fine looking torch job Marc ;D. It adds  character and contrast to the bow..

Rich-
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: El Destructo on April 27, 2008, 01:16:30 am
                                              Looks like Red Heartwood to me......... :-\
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 27, 2008, 09:13:03 am
There is quite a bit of heartwood left on the bow actually.  If the stave would have had more depth I would have tried for a bit more draw weight out of it.
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: OldBow on April 27, 2008, 01:34:34 pm
Dang - wish I could shoot it. April Bow of the Month is next week, folks. 
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: El Destructo on April 27, 2008, 01:47:42 pm
I like the Difference in Color Marc...I would have sacrificed a little Poundage to keep the Looks....I love Red Elm ...and American Elm for Bow Wood...I have one in the Garage Drying right now
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 27, 2008, 11:27:46 pm
Straight hard Elm is as good a bow wood as you can get.  This one is not hard Elm but it's not soft either, it sort of falls in the middle
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: PatM on April 28, 2008, 01:49:27 am
 With judicious use of heat you can turn hard Elm practically into Osage and soft Elm into Yew.
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: El Destructo on April 28, 2008, 02:35:54 am
With judicious use of heat you can turn hard Elm practically into Osage and soft Elm into Yew.

                                                                     We'll see

                              I got a Piece of Red Elm that I am going to start work on one day soon
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Hillbilly on April 28, 2008, 10:40:29 am
Great looking bow, Marc-nice lines, looks like a good one.  8)
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Hrothgar on April 28, 2008, 09:50:52 pm
Nice looking bow Marc, good job. Have you shot her yet?
Eric
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on April 29, 2008, 07:29:02 am

terific longbow, mark!!!
frank
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: GregB on April 29, 2008, 09:43:15 am
Great looking bow, I like the knot remnants in the top limb. :)
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: cowboy on April 29, 2008, 11:57:41 am
Another fine looking weapon - I continue to be inspired. Never have tried Elm, but have a peice in the works..
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 29, 2008, 03:01:28 pm
Thank you guys.

I have shot the bow a bit. It shoots quite well and is pretty fast, for a longbow  :)
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: PaulN/KS on April 30, 2008, 10:59:08 am
WoW ! Nice bow , and you were going to try for "more draw weight" ? 70# seems like enough for what's left of my shoulders... :)
Title: Re: Elm ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 30, 2008, 09:50:42 pm
Paul
My shoulders are not the best either but I can pull more