Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on March 28, 2020, 12:44:44 am
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The second bow in the bendy handle row is a bow from a really expressive character stave with wonderful colors.
A selection of the problems (= character, ;D):
It has a tremendous changing crown causing particularly hollowed out belly;
Portions of ingrown dead wood;
Huge hole in lower limb;
It was hard work to tiller this little bow, but finally a pleasure. The smell of this wood is fantastic, esp. when heated. I did a light heat treatment here.
She still holds a 1 reflex, no set.
The single notched (opposing) tips and the raw hide handle makes a rustic, primitive appearance.
ntn: 57½
bh: 5½
reflex: 1
w/d max: 1Ύ mm
mass: 368 gram
asymmetrical
juniperus communis
08: 06,0
10: 10,7 (+4,7)
12: 14,2 (+3,5)
14: 17,8 (+3,6)
16: 20,8 (+3,0)
18: 24,1 (+3,3)
20: 27,4 (+3,3)
22: 31,0 (+3,6)
24: 34,5 (+3,5)
26: 38,0 (+3,5)
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/208-juniper-flat-rawhide-handle-1-von-21-1.jpeg)
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Wonderful how you let the wood speak.
It's truly masterful.
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Very beautiful,,,congrats on that one,,,just love it
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Dang. Theres just no way that stick should be able to bend that nice. Just like riding a bicycle Simson. You still got it.
Thanks for sharing it with us
Bjrogg
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Another beaut simon.Very nice work.Like the rawhide handle and lace work also.Anyone else would diagnose that piece of wood as a walking stick.I'm sure keeping the poundage low helps with success.
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Character is an understatement for that bow. Most wouldn't attempt a bow from something so gnarly and you turned it into a beautiful bow. Excellent work Simon.
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Very nice bow
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:OK 8)
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Very cool Simon, such character!
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Stave whisperer!
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Holey hell i am amazed you were able to make a bow from that. I love it
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That handle wrap is very cool! Well.... the whole bow is.
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Wow, just amazing. I am sure that thing defies several laws of physics.
Mark
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That thing is insane I love it!
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Well done Simon!!
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Holy smoke, that thing is an inspiration. Thanks for sharing it.
T
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Thanks felles!
Glad you like gnarly sticks.
I still have a bunch of such 'character' staves. Some were 'harvested' from the bio junk container from the local community (a really good source btw., folks there are looking always compassionate when I I dig in that stuff ;D ;D ;D)
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There are nice and working bows, then there are great, beautiful and very well bows and then there are Simson's bows...
How many hours it takes to make that kind of character bow? And, how many of your character bows fails at the end of tillering...? It seems that you can make a bow from whatever stave?
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Not bad :)
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Work of art
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Beautiful one simson, very well done with all that character. I made a similar one of the same wood species but with alot less character, and it took a bunch of set, and my conclusion was this species of juniper would make shit bows unless backed with sinew, until i saw this. Guess it was me and not the wood :) I think the problem was tillering removed most of the hearthwood leaving me with just about 5 % heartwood, and the sapwood rings were to tight to thin the sap. What is the sap/heartwood ratio in this one aprox? Did you heat in any reflex?
This post made we want to try another one, smells good and is super easy to work. Dings easily though
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Oh my, I can hardly believe you managed a bow out of that piece of wood. You are a master to be sure.
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(A)
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Very well done.
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Thanks again, guys.
I'm glad you like that stick.
There are nice and working bows, then there are great, beautiful and very well bows and then there are Simson's bows...
How many hours it takes to make that kind of character bow? And, how many of your character bows fails at the end of tillering...? It seems that you can make a bow from whatever stave?
Can't say how long I've worked on that special stick. Working on several bow at the same time I'm coming back to an individual stick now and then.The time for making a bow is probably shorter than the documentatory stuff, making pics, texting not in my mother tongue, computing, posting, etc. ... . I really enjoy the building part, but I dislike the computer work.
And yes I also have fails now and then, rarely - but I have.
Beautiful one simson, very well done with all that character. I made a similar one of the same wood species but with alot less character, and it took a bunch of set, and my conclusion was this species of juniper would make shit bows unless backed with sinew, until i saw this. Guess it was me and not the wood :) I think the problem was tillering removed most of the hearthwood leaving me with just about 5 % heartwood, and the sapwood rings were to tight to thin the sap. What is the sap/heartwood ratio in this one aprox? Did you heat in any reflex?
This post made we want to try another one, smells good and is super easy to work. Dings easily though
Probably the same ratio here on my bow. I cannot see a significant difference in the sap / heartwood quality. IMO the heat treatment is the thing that matters (I did a light ht here). I'm surprised how that bow hold the profiles after shooting. If you have some staves, try the heat treating - I'm curious what you get!
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Cool bow!
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super bow Simon. like "rps3" said: you`r a stave whisperer
Hans
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Beautiful bow. Your an inspiration. Started my 3rd juniper bow after reading this post.
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Sooo cool
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So, I'm curious: What is the prospect for longevity with a bow like this? Is it going to last as long as a clean stave bow would, or is all that character going to get the best of if after a while? I hope it's a life-time shooter. Sure is pretty.
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Gorgeous piece of wood and tremendous craftsmanship!
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Thank you for your comments, guys!
So, I'm curious: What is the prospect for longevity with a bow like this? Is it going to last as long as a clean stave bow would, or is all that character going to get the best of if after a while? I hope it's a life-time shooter. Sure is pretty.
To be true, I was a bit anxious on this one, so I kept the drawweight low. Not because of the big hole, but the heavy changing crown causing exceptional stress on some portions on the belly. Also the dead wood, it's only an estimation how healthy the structure is inside.
I shot this bow - and I have a good feeling, it is snappy and holds the unbraced profile, which is a good sign.
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I think that's the most beautiful bow I've ever seen.
Excellent craftmanship!