Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Kegan on April 20, 2008, 07:28:47 pm
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Does a smaller diameter shaft give better penetration (provided all else is the same) than a larger one?
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Kegan, The arrow follows the head so with some heads it probably doesn't matter but with others it would. The only way it would matter is if the shaft "drags" through the wound instead of passing unobstructed. ??? ::) Pat
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That really helps, my points are small, and my old 3/8" shafts were BIG. Hence, smaller diamter would provide better penetration than the hulking logs. Thanks again (this is twiced you've helped me in fifteen minutes ;D)!
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i got no idea. i know that hevyer arras make biger holes.
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kegan i did a lot of penetration tests years ago and the answer is yes. small shafts get better penetration. tapered shafts are the next best. barrel tapering heeds penetration but will still kill.
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I agree with jamie .. but for hunting arrows heavier shafting with sharp points are the ticket... nothing cuts through bone and hide like a heavy arrow...remember penetration is not as critical as shot placement.. hope this helps. Hawk..A/ho
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im sure you could have heavy wood arrows with smaller diameter and wider dimater but light arrows. i ould think like, a red oak shaft which is heavy, as a light arrow would penetrate beter than a thick pine arrows
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What Jamie said. Most any arrow with a sharp point shot from a good bow will do the job rather quickly. There is the old debate as to if you want complete pass through or not. An arrow with a sharp point lodged into the chest does a lot of damage as the animal runs.
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that is my philosophy justin. that why i hunt with 45 lbs or les of draw. but with that kinda low power ya gots to be a good shot. aing gonna make it through no sholderblades wit 45 pounds of power, unless your arra weight 5 pounds ;)
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Kegan: I don't have a lot of experience but do know that arrow head design means a lot. Talking about stone here - longer narrower points go MUCH deeper than do shorter/wider points. Sure weight means a lot too, but have yet to test any of this. This shaft was less than 3/8" , more like around 5/16" - seemed to fly better out out my 55# bow.
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perfectly placed shot friend. the reason a long narra head penetrates better is cz of the same reason a 30 degree ramp is easyer to roll a wheelchair up than a 45 degree one. ya know, like wedges and stuff. and how far did ya have to trail that deer?
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Didn't have to trail him far recurve - about two steps :D. Shot him at about twelve yards - both his back legs were broken from my brothers shot. Was just a test for my sticks and stones :).
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Cowboy, nice deer and sure nice to see some blood on stone ... got me wishing for deer season to get here.. Hawk..
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Hi, Cowboy you make some great stone heads,I will be using the one's you sent me in about a weeks time. Great photo too! Cromm.
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Thanks everyone. Weight isn't an issue- even at 23/64" they weigh about 850 grains finished weight. Besides penetration, they also seem to fly better- and more accurately- out of my 80# longbow. Hopefully they keep their accuracy on stronger bows as well.
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80 pounds. I REALLY DONT THINK YOUR GONNA HAVE A PROLLEM WITH PENITRATION, YOU COULD SHOOT THROUGH SHEET METAL WITH THAT MONSTROSITY!! :o seriously, with eighty pounds behind a blunt you cold kill a deer. you aint got nuthin to worry about.
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Hahaha ;D. I'm actually trying to make my next one 90#. In old Howard Hill movies he still doesn't get a complete pass through, despite 700 grain, 3/8" tapered POC arrows and 85+# bows. You can never have too much power ;).
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lol, if thats your style, roll with it. i prefer to have a sharp hand made piece of steel sawin back and forth in tha chest cavity as the critter runs. but like the other guys say, a longer, more gradualy tapering point is a sure thing for more penetration. good luck friend.
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I'm sure it's more deadly, but if I miss a vital spot, the arrow pulls free and it might heal. That. And I want my arrow out of the critter, lest it falls or snaps it. Lot of work to replace :P.
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....got me there. :P