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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: High-Desert on February 09, 2020, 08:04:10 pm

Title: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: High-Desert on February 09, 2020, 08:04:10 pm
Since I’ve been makin bows, I have always used a regular bench vise. I have always built little magnets wood jaws with leather to attach to the vise jaws to protect the potential bows. I have always been irritated by having to use so much pressure to hold the staves from pushing through as a rasp away. I built a new bench this last year that weight close to 300 pounds due to the movement of my last bench moving so much where I had to stand on it as I worked. I didn’t want the new bench to be taken up with a permanent vise. So I came up with this contraption, with a cheap vise that wood can’t push out the bottom and doesn’t require so much pressure to clamp a bow down, and can be moved easily off the bench. Just throwing this idea out there for anyone looking for new ways of doing this, and I’d be curious to see how others work in there bows, vise? No vise? I’m always looking for new and better ways of doing things.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Swampman on February 09, 2020, 09:05:53 pm
I use a stave press.  I mount the pipe base to my bench permanently but if I need more bench space I can remove the stave press from the base.  I have an extra base too that I can clamp to picnic tables or other surfaces.  When the weather is nice I like to work outside.

The stave press cost me some money but it was well worth it.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Drawknife on February 09, 2020, 10:43:12 pm
Bought a harbor freight bench for 125 that has a built in wood on wood vice. I like it!
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 09, 2020, 11:37:49 pm
Built and adapted Jawge's bench with a regular vise and magnetic jaw pads, I guess it works, but I need to figure a more flexible way to mount the rille ring tree.  But right now it is holding my quiver! (lol)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Dances with squirrels on February 10, 2020, 04:04:47 am
I used, and was fairly happy with, a heavy duty 6" bench vise for my first 20 years of bowmaking, but then I built a new workbench and now I have 5 different types of vises in the shop. Three of which are used regularly for bow making. My trusted bench vise still gets used a lot, but also two types of patternmakers vises which I've really taken a shine to. They're versatile.

When I use the regular bench vise on bows that are far enough along that they need protection, I just slide a piece of 1/8" industrial strength rubber down into the vise. It protects the bow, and grips it well. I have the same rubber on my shavehorse.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Benn.Of.Trades on February 10, 2020, 04:28:28 am
Build yourself a shave horse young man.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Stick Bender on February 10, 2020, 05:17:41 am
I have a small shop so most things are duel purpouse ,I have every thing on wheels & I made detachable bases for a lot of my vice bases I have multiple vices I usualy secure my staves with 2 vices ,handel & uppers !
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: artcher1 on February 10, 2020, 05:25:45 am
I built a vise years ago for working on rifles that I adapted for bow and arrow making. Today, I think folks call it a leg vise. But I added a little twist to mine for working on bow staves.

You can build this type of vise for little or no money. Most of us have an old scissor jack or two laying around. Remove the crank  screw and nut (cut off with hacksaw). Imbed the thread nut in the jaw on the bench, and the crank screw in the leg. Twist I added for bow making was to attach an adjustable rest. This type of vise will hold anything up to 8-9" in width. Perfect for those like me with limited work space...…..Art

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Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 10, 2020, 07:40:36 am
I use a US made Colombian 5 1/2" bench vise. I added leather covered vise pads that hold tight, don't shift and are easily removable if you want to clamp metal in the vise and don't need the pads.

Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: High-Desert on February 10, 2020, 08:41:21 am
Very cool, I like hearing and seeing everyone’s ideas.

Build yourself a shave horse young man.

That was one of the first tools I built back in middle school. And love it, I start all my bows on them. My three old loves using with a drawknife and a bit of soft juniper.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: dratera on February 10, 2020, 10:27:57 am
I use a vice on the middle of the bow and clamp the tip to the table with one of those quick ratchet clamps so that it doesnt move around, but not optimal so good to see different ideas. Cork from a sanding block epoxied on the vice for padding, and also i have tied a bit of rope to the pin/bar handle to make it easier to open and close quickly
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: High-Desert on February 10, 2020, 12:30:37 pm
I use a US made Colombian 5 1/2" bench vise. I added leather covered vise pads that hold tight, don't shift and are easily removable if you want to clamp metal in the vise and don't need the pads.



This is what I have use for years, and it has been the best thing that I have currently used other than the minor irritations thy I’ve had with it. Which is the problem I’ve been trying to solve, which my new set up solves, but I’ll never be satisfied and I’ll find a problem with it too
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: RyanY on February 10, 2020, 07:38:53 pm
I made this bench a couple years ago and it’s been great. I can sit while I work and my weight holds it down. It’s relatively portable and I can stash tools in the bottom. The vise isn’t great but gets the job done. On the other end I added a mortise that I made a tillering tree for so I can make bows anywhere.

Edit: Photo posted upside down for some reason.  ::)
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Russ on February 10, 2020, 08:59:09 pm
I have seen ryans bench and am trying to make one. its pretty epic. O:) O:) :BB
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: bownarra on February 11, 2020, 01:47:51 am
A 4inch jawed Engineers vice. Or spend some money and get a pattern makers vice with all the bells and whistles.
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 11, 2020, 08:16:48 am
With a vise I find it important to have a post on your bench out from the vise to support your stave. I use my bench post and the vise rotation to heat straighten staves as well.

 
Title: Re: New vise idea. How do others clamp there bows?
Post by: Santanasaur on February 11, 2020, 02:03:37 pm
I use a stave press and a regular vise. I liked the stave press  so much that when I built a workbench for bows I made a bigger face vise version of it but open one side for faster access.