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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Hilongbow on September 23, 2019, 04:50:58 pm

Title: First osage self bow
Post by: Hilongbow on September 23, 2019, 04:50:58 pm
Aloha all,

I just completed my first osage selfbow thanks to the generosity of the people on this board sharing their knowledge. I got the stave in a trade with dylanholderman.

I shaved down through the bark, sapwood, and a few layers of heartwood to get below some minor bug damage and find a thicker ring. Got a good ring with lots of ups and downs, concave areas, flat areas, pin knots, etc. It was pretty fun to work.

Due to knot placement I ended up laying out the profile a hair over 1 1/8" wide for the middle third, tapering to 1/2" tips. I had originally intended to end up with a 50# @ 26" draw, but early on in tillering (long string, drawing 10" or less) it started taking a lot of set. I figured it wasn't wide enough and started tillering towards 45# and it took no more set for the rest of the tillering process.

Turns out my draw is actually a little shorter with this bow, so it finished up 56" ntn, 42# @ 24" measured to the back. Haven't drawn it past 24.5"

It shoots pretty well. If you don't hold it quite right it's got a mean hand shock and makes some noise, but with just the right touch, all you hear and feel is the arrow sliding around the bow over your hand.

With this bow, I was going for something that to the untrained eye just looks like a stick when unstrung. Take a look:

(https://i.imgur.com/N4JT3HH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OHPRLYF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ktyXPUS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uYhWPPr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/20dvOfV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1Kc5j5n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gWEfbI1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/95E30jI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aUI53tu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/37gnNiv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ItyVuPu.jpg)

Mahalo for looking!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Stickhead on September 23, 2019, 04:56:01 pm
Congrats on a fine first Osage bow!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 23, 2019, 05:12:09 pm
Tiller looks pretty good, nice execution, and I absolutely love the wonky-tonk badonk in it!

You got nothing to carp about, you done good!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Hawkdancer on September 23, 2019, 05:20:29 pm
Nice work!  It has character
,
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Weylin on September 23, 2019, 06:43:25 pm
That's a first bow to be proud of! You did a great job with the tiller, especially considering the character in the stave. You were wise to keep the design simple and focus on getting a good bend. I bet you learned a lot from making that bow.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Russ on September 23, 2019, 06:48:14 pm
Thats a really nice bow you got there!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: bjrogg on September 23, 2019, 06:51:07 pm
What Weylin said. Is that your first bow to? Or just first osage?
Either way nice job on a tricky stick.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: M2A on September 23, 2019, 08:30:20 pm
That's a tough stick to tiller. Very nice work!
Mike 
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: SLIMBOB on September 23, 2019, 09:47:19 pm
Looks pretty dang good!  You nailed the tiller.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: leonwood on September 24, 2019, 08:52:20 am
Great tiller on that one! Love that wonky osage too!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Pat B on September 24, 2019, 08:54:33 am
Nice simple bow from a challenging stave and beautiful tiller. Well done.   :OK
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 24, 2019, 11:38:36 am
That is a great first bow, 10 times better than first. I see a slight issue on the lower limb but nothing that will cause any trouble down the line.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: kbear on September 24, 2019, 05:31:30 pm
Very nice bow mate. Simple, elegant, characterful, nice bend. Great job!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Hilongbow on September 25, 2019, 05:00:10 am
Thank you all for the nice comments! It was a joyful challenge to make, and that "wonky-tonk badonk" certainly had me scratching my head a lot. To clarify, this is my first osage selfbow but not my first bow. I've made about 10 other bows of various design, including 1 crappy selfbow early on.

Eric, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the lower limb. Oddly enough, even though it was the straighter of the two limbs (at least from the front), I probably spent more than twice as much time on it. It had some natural deflex along its length that made it hard for me to judge an even bend while tillering. This deflex originated from a kink about 5" south of the center.

So far after a couple hundred shots it is still holding at 42#@24".

Aloha and happy shaving  :BB
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 25, 2019, 07:23:17 am
From your full draw picture it appears you have a slightly weak spot about 7" in from the nock. It could be the picture as they tend to distort things. From the rock in the background the weak spot is just below the rock. You have a thicker limb above the weak spot that looks slightly stiff as well. Again, pictures tend to distort things and I could be wrong.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Hilongbow on September 25, 2019, 04:33:12 pm
Ah yes, I see what you mean. There is a kink in the grain on one side of the limb that makes it look funny. I do agree that the area above that might be a tad stiff on closer inspection. I'll keep an eye on the weight and tiller as I shoot it more, hopefully there is enough length that a slight stiff spot won't over stress the rest of the limb. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Bayou Ben on September 26, 2019, 08:26:37 am
Nice overall bend you have there Hilongbow!  Like Don says, it does look nicely balanced in your hand. 
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 27, 2019, 03:18:34 pm
One thing I learned in art class; if you squint at a picture as you look at it anomalies will show up.
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 28, 2019, 11:29:58 am
Please feel free to go back to prior bows you have made and post those too!  I've never seen anyone complain that there are too many bows showing up on the forum! LOL!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: razorsharptokill on September 30, 2019, 10:40:33 am
Very nice!
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: Russ on September 30, 2019, 12:23:38 pm
+1 JW! I would love to see your bows
Title: Re: First osage self bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 01, 2019, 03:06:09 pm
Great to see all these fine looking bows being posted. This is why I always try to check in, even when work gets crazy. Very nice work.  :OK