Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: hawkbow on April 13, 2008, 05:11:47 pm
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Hello brothers and sisters of the bow, I just returned from a turkey hunt with my son Tyler and thought i would post some pics and A brief recount of the hunt. We arrived at the old farmstead early Saturday morning after a four hour drive. The turkeys were strutting along the creek bottom, and some of the toms were engaged in a fierce battle. We were able to stalk within fifteen yards of two toms who were in a full out scrap, feathers were flying and the smaller of the two was getting the worst if it. Ty readied for the shot on the larger tom and looses an arrow, the birds were so engrosed in the battle they failed to notice the arrow which missed the bird by inches. He was able to shoot a second arrow which also missed the fighting birds, this arrow spooked the pair for a brief instant causing them to step back and stare in our direction. I loosed my arrow at twelve yards into the chest of the larger bird, the flint point entered just above the beard and buried to about fifteen inches. The bird went down at about twenty yards and expired quickly. Ty was not able t get a bird on this hunt but the time we spent together was well worth it. I will be writing the entire story for a future issue.. happy hunting to all ... Hawk a/ho
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nice story and one fine looking buzzerd you got there.
those merriams are pretty.
must be nice to live where you can hunt with stone tips.
here in MN the law is very clear that all arrow heads must have atleast to metal cutting edges, hate that rule,or be of blunt tip.
keep up the good times with your son because before you know it theyll be moving out on their own.
peace,
tim
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Excellent story (can't wait for the article) and beautiful bird! Not to mention one nice looking point ya got there :).
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Nice going Mike....just got one more to catch up!!!!!!!!
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Beautiful Day by the Looks of the Picture...cant wait to read the Story
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Thanks fer sharing Mike and I hope Ty isn't to disheartened, sounds like some quality time together :)
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Pretty good when it's warmer in Wyoming than it is in Texas........ I had to wear a Wind Breaker all day when I went outside
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good to see ya guys had some action. nice turkey. did ya knap the point yourself. hopefully your son will connect soon. looks warm out there.
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That's a great story Mike and Tyler! I'm sure with time that aim will get better and the heart won't pump quite so hard :). You guys are killin me out there - I gotta git into the woods more often ;D. I too can't wait for the story.....
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Thanks brothers , the hunt was awesome and the time spent out in the hills with my boy made it even sweeter... spring bear is coming up next .. hoping for some quality time spent in the high lands in a few weeks. Hawk..a/ho
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Nice lookin bird there ,and quality time shared with son . Now if'n I had me some turkey feathers I could fletch me some arrows >:D
Dennis
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Great story Mike and congrats on the bird. 8) I'm sure Tyler had as much fun as you. I'd bet he knows a successful hunt when he sees one. His time will come and the lessons he learned today will bring them sooner. Pat
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what a nice bird and a cool story. guess you saved that smaller bird's butt (from getting beat up too badly). maybe IT has ty's name written on it, when the time has come ;D
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Congrats, good story. Kenneth
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Nice story and great bird,congrats. :)
Pappy
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Way cool! You are my idol!
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did ya knap the point?
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yep.. I did and it still worked...he ran off and started falling down within ten yards... died at about twenty or so.... the arrow missed the heart but turned the lungs into mush.. Hawk.. a/ho
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question mr huston. dont know whether you hunted eastern turk. ever but do ya think merriams are easier than eastern? anyone can answer this question, im just wondering. plus here its all hardwoods. dont make for good stalking. ;)
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well if you ask the pros they claim the eastern usually is the hardest, dont know how they come to the conclusion. i only hunt the eastern so i cant truly answer.
but i think the hardest has to be the one that you are hunting on any given day can be the hardest because their senses are so keen that even when they are comletly horned up ans stupid they are still extremly wary. from the day they are hatched something is always trying to eat them,cause there so damn tasty ;)
tim
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;D ;D ive only ever hunted eastrn. but ive heard they are pushed or hunted more. but luckily we will be huntin up on the tops, so some may never have ever seen humans.
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Nice pics, Mike. I gotta chase a few Merriams one of these days.... I have been having a rough time with a couple of Rios this past week!
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Awesome harvest! I think it's fantastic that you include your sons and gave Ty the 1st opportunity at the birds. You're a real sportsman. I don't know how you can keep a straight face after that experience, great job.
Tracy
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I have never hunted Eastern turkeys... but will someday.. I hope to get the grand slam with flint points. I have the merriams and Rio grand so far. I would guess that our birds are not quite as hunted as the eastern variety. we have fewer hunters throughout the whole state than most eastern states have in one county, and those counties are the size of some of the farms and ranches we hunt alone. I am a novice turkey hunter and have only harvested five birds in as many years..all were hunted by spot and stalk so i do not claim to be an expert on the ways of the wild warriors but sure do enjoy the hunt...Hawk a/ho
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i dont know if it would be possible to stalk these birds here. they are keen and they hear anything. maybe in a field or a clear cut. but i look forward to hunting the merriams when i get out there in a couple years. ;D ;D ;D
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These turkeys are hard to stalk also, for every successful stalk there are ten that bust me. the last one took about an hour of belly crawling through thick brush to get the shot...Hawk a/ho
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oh, jeesh you shot it wearin what you were in the picture?
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no I was wearing my elk skin shirt and camo pants when I shot the turkey.. took the pictures the next day at my house... Hawk a/ho
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Spring Rut Season...aint the Same as the fall Hunt.....these Turkey have some Keen Eyes....but they are looking for something different right now....................... :o
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that they are.... ;D
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Hi, Great story and photo's. Keep up the fine work!! Thanks for your time bro.
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Great story and nice bird.
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Mike,
Nice bird! I like your plains style quiver with the bow. The day after we let the last kitty we treed go this year I thought of making a plains style quiver like that with a lion skin. Unfortunately, we didn't tree another one this year. Gives me something to look forward to next year. ;)
Walt Francis
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thanks brother, if you decide to build one let me know, i will give you the pattern I have , was a hundred and thirty pound female I took with a pistol. just enough hide to build everything .... did you get your claws back yet ? Hawk a/ho
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Thanks for the offer on the plans, I will contact you the next time I get one. I got the mount and claws back on Monday but my wife quickly laid claim to both when I brought them home. ::) After the newness wears off I think she will let me have a few of the claw and I will get them to you.
Walt Francis
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Great shot! Taking your son out on these hunts will make memories to last for lifetime Tomorrow im taking my little brother hunting with me, whether or not we make a kill, itll be a lot of fun. Good job.
Kdub
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Kdub, hope your little brother gets tha chance to make meat and feathers.. good luck .. Hawk a/ho
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dude, it took me eight shots to kill one of those stinkin birds with a rifle, (not my best shooting of cource, almost dark and on foot litterally chaseing it through underbrush ::)) it takes conciderable skill to kill one with a bow. nice work friend.
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Shooter....That "stinking bird" was a beautifull and proud warrior of the forest... I hope you will reconsider your words regarding the majestic wild turkey, I am an advocate of hunting with honor and respect. I know you are young and probably meant no disrespect towards the animal or the spirit of the hunt, but still your words bothered me.. As far as shooting eight times at any of the creatures on this great earth,in my opinion you owe it to your intended prey to practice continually and only take shots which are within your effective range... I imagine some animal rights activist standing in the forest and watching you chase the bird down blasting away like a madman. you dishonor yourself , the turkey and all of us as hunters and brothers of the bow with actions like that. I have done stupid things in my youth while hunting , fortunately my mentors, taught me the error of my ways and I was able to learn to enter into the wild lands with honor and respect.. I do not write these words to you to didrespect or dishonor you. I write them in the hope that you will see there is a better way, and will hopefully walk the good road while in pursuit of your prey.. Hawk a/ho
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well put mr. huston, if i was someday attacked by a bear and badly beaten i could still not disrespect it, would i probably after i healed hunt it, yeah i think that would be big medicine, but i never will ever disrespect animals, i think shooter meant stinkin animal as in cunning or smart and hard to get....
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i must say that i totally agree with hawk on this.
one should always use patience and respect when hunting any critter,and always show all of them respect in the hunt even if it means not taking a shot. not taking a shot at times,when all you have is a bad shot available,can prove that you are great hunter instead of taking many shots and looking foolish( no disrespect intended ).
a clean ethical kill or miss always feels better than taking lots of shots,wounding a critter and still having it get away.
patience is a virtue,this is especially true when hunting.
Tim
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Yeah I sure agree...I would never put myself in a Position where I would accept a Poor Shot on any Animal...I would rather do without.....than to wound an Animal...I have heard the Cries of Deer and Hare....and Antelope when they are hit poorly.....Make Me sick inside....But I think if we are going to Hammer Ole R.S. for shooting 8 times at the as He put it ...Stinking Bird....then the Gentleman that shot a Half dozen times at a poor Cottontail should be reprimanded too...and all I heard on that Post was ....Atta Boys...aint fair to Spoil one and Punish the Other.........JMO......Yankee
P,S.....don't take this as I Condone what He did by any means....I wholeheartedly agree with the HAWK....just think if it's good for one....it goes for all.........
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El Destructo... I normally agree with you an most matters ;D We share the same beliefs and hunting ethics.. But shooting at a cottontail with a bow is far from the same thing as blasting at a winged warrior with a gun.. I have shot hundreds of cottontail with a bow and can say that for every one I hit I miss many more.. I shoot 150 arrows every day and stay on top of my game in the shooting department..However cottontails have a way of dodging even the best of arrows and often require several shots in order to make a harvest..because of their size and agility.. Whereas a turkey rarely (in my limited knowlege) requires or offers a second chance with a bow... You have killed far more turkeys than I so I will not begin to think I could understand them as well as you. just my opinion brother.. Hawk a/ho
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I shoot my Bows Daily also....and I would never go out on a Hunt with out being Proficient with the Bow that I was taking.... I understand that little Fuzzy Bunnies are hard little Targets....but R.S was shooting his"Rifle" and missing the Old Warrior of the Land.....but the Kid shooting the Rabbit was wounding ...and then wounding again and again..to me there would be no Pride in this Hunt ....only Shame....and if I was to go Home and Tell that Story to my Father...He would have put the Bow to my Backside for making one of Gods Creations .....suffer like it did.....One Shot ...One Kill....if there is a Doubt in Your Mind....you don't take the Shot.this is How I was raised.....You thank God and thank you Quarry for the Privilege of hunting it and making a Meal and tools from it..you Show it Honor.............I have not one Trophy on My Walls....I was not brought up that way.... My Trophy's lie in all of my Days and Nights spent walking with Nature and coexisting with it....not hanging it from My Walls and Flaunting it....I feel Shame and remorse when I hear People Bragging about their Hunts...and the Animals that they Shot and Crippled....and some that were never recovered...because it was too cold or too late....this is Crap...it is never too late or too bad of Weather to try your best to recover what you messed up in the first place...........Man ....I need a Prozac...............I am sorry I got off on a Rant here....but Abuse of Nature....really get to me..
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Michael "Yankee" Roberts
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One guy's "warrior of the forest" is another guy's "turkey" I eat alot of clams up here and also crabs.I guess I could start calling them warriors of the beach gravel and warriors of the ocean bottom. We got an organization up here called P.E.T.A. (People eat tasty animals) I respect my fellow creatures as well,but I don't bond with them before I kill and eat them.Yeah,kinda cold and unfeeling I know, but I ain't too sophisticated. Definitely not a poet of the great outdoors.Just a hunter. Frank
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Without respect for your prey you are not a hunter only a killer, we all choose our path, the one we choose to walk defines who we are in our indeavors, I choose to hunt with respect , honor and integrity, and refuse to budge from that path.. I am so tired of hearing about the so called hunters out there who enter into the wild places with the attitude, kill, kill, kill.. and will do anything to achieve their goal of a harvest, forgetting about the rules of fair chase and more important not thinking about their impact on all of us and our sport.. I have several friends who are anti hunters.. they respect me and my way of hunting because they see that we share the same respect for the land and wild creatures who share it with us. They all say the same thing, they do not dislike or hate the hunter or the hunt only the disrespect and carnage portrayed by so many of the killers who are hunting to feed their egos. Frank i am sure you are correct about ... One guy's "warrior of the forest" is another guy's "turkey"....I agree, but we all have a responsability to respect the hunt as well as respect the animals we hunt through our deeds.. your P.E.T.A. statement is a prime example of the reason we are constantly under attack as hunters by the real peta and other animal rights activists. Disrespect! I like to eat what i shoot and am aware of the culinary delights associated with wild game meat. my opinion is just that .. my personal opinion, but I feel a need to make a stand concerning this issue and refuse to move from my position as an archer, hunter and outdoor enthusiast.. Hawk a/ho
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I don't see your point about P.E.T.A. Hawk,those guys make no allowance for the killing of any game animal in any manner.I've had convo's with several members of that esteemed org. and I can tell you that they would certainly like to see you stop killing and eating animals they regard as thier brothers/Sisters/long lost aunt etc. Read their mission statement sometime.They are not your friend Hawk.They helped ban dog hunting cats and I hope one of those idiots get eaten by a mountain lion laying on his chase lounge in his back yard in some suburb of Los Angles I have tremendous respect for the environment and all the life contained within it,I live with one of the few apex predators that can get the best of even a well armed human and make meat out of him.So far we have'nt tangled and I hope we do not,but I don't worship the brown bear like a deity either,Every time I go out in the woods and streams and seashore,I am in his company(It is one of the appeals of living here) he is another creature out there making a living,mostly looking for something to eat.(Like me)Also,he makes great trails for walking on,from the sea to the alpine. I see the beauty and I respect the environment and do my little part to help keep it intact.I live in a native village on an island in southeast Alaska,here when the winter of "06/"07 took 90% of our deer,it was felt.In many households here,deer and seal is the only red meat eaten.To buy chicken in the store here in the village cost you four something a pound(Also pork) ground beef is four to five dollars a pound. Needless to say we eat alot of fish,crabs,clams and about anything else we can find edible.When the berry crop is poor up here,it is felt too.You pay two something a pound for a banana.I lived in eastern Washington for twenty two years and hunted and fished practically every month of that time.It was a good training to prepare me to live here. I live not close to this land here,but in it.I am a citizen of this habitat. I take seriously the threat the anti-hunters pose to your "Sport" But i know them for the mis-guided humans they are also.They do not live in the habitats they scream about,the more honest and adventurous step in look around(Most never leave the city) and then step out.They don't contribute to D.U. or R.M.E.F. or any org. that restores or enhances the environment,they send thier money to orgs. like P.E.T.A. I personally do not know anyone I call "Friend" that is a Anti-hunter.I do not have time for that B.S. I do know alot of people who do thier hunting in the meat isle in safeways though.
Your preaching to the choir on this site Hawk. Frank (P.S. that medicine arrow is a fine looking arrow.(I believe in "Medicine" also)
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I am not preaching , only felt you were slamming me for my winged warriors comment.. got my dander up.. I never said I was a friend of the Peta movement.. only that I believe the wrong message about who we are as hunters gets sent through our actions as well as words.. what i said was.. " I have several friends who are anti hunters.. they respect me and my way of hunting because they see that we share the same respect for the land and wild creatures who share it with us"..I do not wish to have a lengthly discussion about my way of speaking about the wildlife I hunt on a thread I started... Sorry that you and i got caught up in the moment, this type of division of our forces over petty things is exactly why the radical animal rights factions are winning the war against us on nearly every front...keep your chin to the wind brother and be safe.. Hawk.. a/ho
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a good arguement that was settled easily, good to see people can agree and disagree on a certain subject and not feel mad towards each other. im with both fish and hawk, i call the animals brothers because i find great respect for them, i want to follow indian ways too, also, yes, im a hunter, i kill, but i do it out of great respect and knowing too that i am putting the meat that sustains our family on the table, the way my great grandmothers brothers and fathers did....
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No insult intended Hawk,I usually confine these discussions to sitting around the campfire sipping a sundowner.I was neck deep in the struggle to keep hound hunting from being banned in washington state,we lost that one to the urbanites,It is not their fault,they are just so disconnected from the land that they don't know any better.I don't have a high regard for the organizations that take advantage of those peoples ignorance. I raised two sons and three daughters in the outdoors,one just got back from Bagdad last fall and the other's wife is expecting the 1st baby,he spent two years in Managua,Nicaragua and came home in fall Of "06. Both these boys are probably alive largely from the fact they were outdoorsmen.Our youngsters today need to spend more time around campfires.Our young warriors are running around without strong role models to look up to and learn the good ways.They spend too much time with the T.V. learning what a person is supposed to look and act like,not enough time on the land. I see that you are doing good with your youngster,keep him in the company of the outdoors and he will do well.I really love seeing young folks like Huntertrapper and Andrea S. on this forum,I wish we had a hundred like them on here to keep us company. We have to go out of our way and make the effort to embrace our young people and show them natural wonder and the connection that exist between all things and this earth,it's the only way that they will understand the great circle. As I said before,I live in a native village and it is heartbreaking to see the young people here trying to act like the people who you see on MTV,every other kid walking down the street has a cell phone jammed in their ear.I seen about 3 or 4 kids last summer walking around with a fishing poles in their hand.We live on the shore of the ocean here,the grocery store and hardware store are built on pilings over the water. If you see a kid out there trying to hunt and he isn't going at it just right,invite them to hunt with you and show them the good way. Sorry to be so long winded here,I will finally get back out on the water in the boat this weekend after a very long winter.Keep your nose in the wind. Frank
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thanks fish, theres more than just me and andrea, theres sean and david and some other youngsters... but you said that true... ive found ive been changing a bit to blend in with kids around... i mean as far as clothing and how i act around people, but something that will never change is my hunting and love of nature and things of the sort. i have no friends that hunt the old way or really rspect nature... they just hunt to as hawk said kill and say look i got a deer, its totally different for me and you all know that by now. a good discussion this was, my best regards...
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Glad your warriors made it home, and tell them THANK YOU! for me... for their sacrifices and their courage in the face of the enemys of our great nation.. I am forever a patriot and honor all our heroes for all they do so we can live free.... Hawk a/ho
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Huntertrapper,I have'nt picked up on everyone's age's yet but will as time goes on,I am happy you guys and gal's are here and on this path.
Hawk,The oldest son is still in active service,he's the medic in his stryker group and is at fort lewis right now,he could be re-deployed with-in the next year or not.I will give him your message. Frank
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hey fish same for me, tell him... thanks.
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Huntertrapper,Will do. Frank