Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: leonwood on April 01, 2019, 04:32:06 am
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The stave this bow is made from was a gift from my good friend Erik from Pinaka Longbows. He has tons of good bow wood and makes a habit of giving me the "marginal" pieces. You don't hear me complain;-)
This stave was very straight and only has some pin knots. The only drawback was huge rings and about 1.5 inch of sapwood. The sap rings where so big I could chase them easily with only my drawknife, no scraper needed. Left only two sapwood rings on the finished bow.
I wanted a simple, little lighter weight bow for the upcoming 3d season and decided to make a simple flat bow with flipped tips just for looks and smooth draw.
Tillered the bow to brace and after that boiled the tips and set them with dry heat. There is still some minor twist in the limbs but not enough to bother heating it out.
Added horn tip overlays and arrow pass and started shooting it in. Had to tweak the tiller a bit after 200 arrows or so and called it done.
The handle was just a little to thin but I did not want to flatten it (and thin it even more) to glue on a piece of wood so I build it up with cork and sanded that into shape.
The bow came out very clean looking (read boring to me) so I decided to try to fume it. Had it in the fume pipe for about a week and it came out almost green looking! Luckily this changed to a darker brown after another week of drying. I really like that the fuming did not affect the sapwood. I added some extra stain at the fades and the tips and wrapped the handle with 2 different pieces of leather.
Been shooting it for two months already and the profile did not change at all. Now I know there is some debate over small vs. big rings in yew but I can tell you this bow shoots like a dream and has almost no set. So I will take the big ringed lowland yew any time;-)
Specs:
Wood: yew
Length : 64 n.t.n.
Max width: 1.2 inch
Draw weight: 48@28
Nocks+arrowpass: buffalo horn
String: 8 strand fastflight
Handle: leather wrap
Details
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Profiles
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Braced
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FD
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Very nice in every way!
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That turned out very nice. I love the way your fades look, very graceful. How long did you fume the yew for?
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The fuming sure gives that yew a rich color. Very nice bow all around. :OK
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Mighty fine.
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Gorgeous bow...
Marginal :o ::) ... You guys have a funny idea of marginal (lol)
Del
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That’s a really awesome look. Never seen fumed yew before. It gives the yew an aged look. Great job on another beauty.
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Great bow Leon!
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Awesome bow! I really like the sleek lines on the fades. All around beauty :OK
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Awesome. You guys are amazing. There are about 25 of you that have to be the best in the world. So cool to see and be inspired by your work.
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Very nice! I like the shading/color!
Hawkdancer
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Just way too frickin cool... love everything about it, great work
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Well it sure isn't boring anymore Leonwood. That fuming really worked nice on that yew. It looks like a really fine shooter to.
Bjrogg
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(A) (A) (A) that looks really awesome, if look very closely do i see a hollow limb there? maybe its just me
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Thanks for all the great comments guys!
That turned out very nice. I love the way your fades look, very graceful. How long did you fume the yew for?
It was in the fume pipe for about a week, scared the crap out of me when I took it out because it was as green as a frog... Luckily that faded after a few days ;D
Gorgeous bow...
Marginal :o ::) ... You guys have a funny idea of marginal (lol)
Del
Yeah I feel the same way, he is just too lazy to take off all the sapwood because he has so many really good staves.
(A) (A) (A) that looks really awesome, if look very closely do i see a hollow limb there? maybe its just me
Well spotted ;D I do this with all my flat bows now, not really HLD but jus following the crown shape on the back. I like the look of it and my curved scrapers just work so nice (lol)
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Great bow again, Leon!
I like this uggly frog.
Did you use osage soup or tanin additional?
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Great bow again, Leon!
I like this uggly frog.
Did you use osage soup or tanin additional?
I used the osage soup for the darker parts, works great!
Finishing up a hawthorn bow which I completely stained with the osage soup. Osage leftovers really makes awesome stain!
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When I first tried fuming I put some various pieces of wood in the bag. When the yew turned that awful"wood preservative" green I just threw it away. I should have stuck with it.
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When I first tried fuming I put some various pieces of wood in the bag. When the yew turned that awful"wood preservative" green I just threw it away. I should have stuck with it.
Yeah I noticed with both fumed yew and black locust that the green slowly dissolves in a week or two. Looks like it is only green when still wet from the fuming or it reacts when exposed to uv or something
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Nice work sir!
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Very nice bow!!
I have a bow where the lower is dogleged and with a higher crown. It didn't start to bend and I was concerned it's going to be very thin. I decided to hollow it out and followed the crown. Voila!
Until now I just made good experiences with hollow limbs.
How does your scraper look like?
I use a long piece spring steel bend and taped together forming a U. Works pretty good and fast.
Cheers
B2W
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Very nice bow!!
I have a bow where the lower is dogleged and with a higher crown. It didn't start to bend and I was concerned it's going to be very thin. I decided to hollow it out and followed the crown. Voila!
Until now I just made good experiences with hollow limbs.
How does your scraper look like?
I use a long piece spring steel bend and taped together forming a U. Works pretty good and fast.
Cheers
B2W
Thanks! I did the same thing with a hawthorn bow I just finished, it has some areas with real high crown which I hollowed out and some flatter areas with knots. Basically getting even limb thickness so I don't have to narrow the high crown parts.
I made my rounded scrapers from old thick rectangle cabinet scrapers. Rounded off the ends to different radiuses. Have about 6 different ones now but they are easy to change for a different radius if needed. I find that even with a very shallow curve it really gives me a lot of control and feel and still hogs wood pretty fast
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Beautiful
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Gorgeous bow...
Marginal :o ::) ... You guys have a funny idea of marginal (lol)
Del
Yeah I feel the same way, he is just too lazy to take off all the sapwood because he has so many really good staves.
Who you´re calling lazy... at any given time 4 projects to work on. :BB. just haven´t got all the free time you have (SH) ;D ;D
But glad that these staves usually are turned into great bows.
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Beautiful Bow
couple questions ???
can someone explain what FUMED is ?? - i presume its letting fumes get to it ? or smoking but really this is the first i have heard so would be great to know how its done ?
I presume Fuming would also work for anything make with wood - a way to change colour without dye's ??
what are the benefits of fuming over dye or light burning or other methods of changing the wood colour ?
thanks Mark
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Goodlooking piece for sure.
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can someone explain what FUMED is ?? - i presume its letting fumes get to it ? or smoking but really this is the first i have heard so would be great to know how its done ?
I presume Fuming would also work for anything make with wood - a way to change colour without dye's??
With fuming you place your finished bow in a sealed bag or container with a cup of ammonia. The vapour will react with the tannins in the wood and make it darker. Will only work if there are enough tannins in the wood
what are the benefits of fuming over dye or light burning or other methods of changing the wood colour?
No real benefits really. Although it is easier to get an equal stain because you do not have to brush it on. It does go into the wood a bit too so a little sanding does not immediately remove it.
If you want a specific color staining will be better of course.