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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: globalmark on March 22, 2019, 03:55:03 pm

Title: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: globalmark on March 22, 2019, 03:55:03 pm: Hi

I would like to Make a composite horse bow like a SALUKI or Attila or similar -
Glass
laminations
glass
+ Siyahs

Maybe approx 54" long -
35-50lbs
i draw approx 30" but not super important as I am more interested in making
Glass i have is 1mm x 38mm - so will use this

Just making for Fun - have made recurves before and also Bamboo Horsebow
so just need some approx dimensions.

how many laminations - whats a good width or thickness for the bow/laminations and are the laminations Tapered like in recurves and laminated longbows ?
any info helpful or a link anyone hads found for a build along ..
Thanks Mark
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: PatM on March 22, 2019, 04:17:09 pm: Not a glass forum. At all.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on March 22, 2019, 04:39:09 pm: Sorry, not to be rude, but nobody here works with glass, its all wood here. We just dont know.
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Post by: Dante_F on March 22, 2019, 05:18:34 pm: NO SAYING THE F WORD :o :'( >:D
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Dante_F on March 22, 2019, 05:19:18 pm: BAD BAD BAD
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Dante_F on March 22, 2019, 05:19:43 pm: sorry i had to :P
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Post by: jeffp51 on March 22, 2019, 06:55:25 pm: Horse bows were meant to be made with horn and sinew anyway. . .
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Post by: Russ on March 22, 2019, 07:04:10 pm: AHHHH MY BEGINNER EARS! NO NO NO! :-X :-X :-X >:D :'(
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 22, 2019, 11:03:30 pm: What's f????g???? Some sort of witchcraft? >:D >:D! Change is constant - progress is optional!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: maitus on March 22, 2019, 11:33:51 pm: I want to make a rifle. Any advise is welcome! How much gunpowder should i use? 8)
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on March 23, 2019, 02:50:34 am: Quote from: maitus on March 22, 2019, 11:33:51 pm
I want to make a rifle. Any advise is welcome! How much gunpowder should i use? 8)

That IS something we do here actually
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: globalmark on March 23, 2019, 08:03:04 am: HI Guys

SORRY SORRY - i really didn't know , I usually Make all wood / Bamboo things , only made one Glass bow before so more of a experiment ,
I would love to make it in Sinew and Horn , both hard to get in the UK and bit pricy so though would make a glass one first and then onto the Horn and Sinew one after .

Is it better I delete this post ?
Thanks Mark
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: ohma2 on March 23, 2019, 08:22:23 am: Yes
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Post by: sleek on March 23, 2019, 09:33:44 am: No harm no foul. But it is better to delete it, so others who search for glass on the internet wont see our forum come up, become confused, and ask more glass questions.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: PatM on March 23, 2019, 10:08:07 am: That was a badger type reply. ;)
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: willie on March 23, 2019, 12:50:39 pm: Quote from: globalmark on March 23, 2019, 08:03:04 am
HI Guys

SORRY SORRY - i really didn't know , I usually Make all wood / Bamboo things , only made one Glass bow before so more of a experiment ,

the building principles are pretty much the same whatever materiel you use, and you can learn more about those principles here at PA than anywhere else. :)
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: maitus on March 23, 2019, 01:53:33 pm: http://www.highlandhorn.com/archery.asp

It shold not be difficult for You to get horns :)
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 23, 2019, 04:19:58 pm: (-P
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Woodely on March 23, 2019, 04:49:09 pm: Glass is a pain to work with, all that dust gets into your power tools, clothes, work area and your Lungs..!! not a healthy option >:( Stick with wood it makes for a much smoother bow.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: burchett.donald on March 23, 2019, 05:17:41 pm: globalmark,
You can use all the plastic, epoxy, metal screws and phenolic you want, and even the kitchen sink...But no glass, ya see, we are primitive here...LOL....................................................................I see the term "all wood bows" used pretty loosely around here at times....I never could see the separation from glass to primitive here...But, rules are rules....Bingham Projects may help you...They helped me out a lot, years ago...
Don
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Post by: Ryan Jacob on March 23, 2019, 05:20:58 pm: Sorry, the only glass we talk about here is the stuff in the knapping section.
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 23, 2019, 07:14:23 pm: I have heard some guys drink beer out of glass,, (-S
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Post by: DC on March 23, 2019, 07:20:18 pm: I was going to say that ;D ;D
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on March 23, 2019, 07:20:32 pm: Quote from: bradsmith2010 on March 23, 2019, 07:14:23 pm
I have heard some guys drink beer out of glass,, (-S

The real men of us drink from a horn!
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: DC on March 23, 2019, 07:22:02 pm: Still attached to the bull ;D
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on March 23, 2019, 07:24:17 pm: Or at least a red solo cup... its artificial horn.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: globalmark on March 31, 2019, 02:19:43 pm: HI Guys

Thanks for the Laughs - I have gone ahead and made my Glass - horse bow , came out very nice , still needs little work but almost finished .
Have listed some pics on another site and put link here - But guess no-one interested anyway as used fibreglass

http://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=167160.new#new

Hahahah
thanks Mark
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Pat B on March 31, 2019, 03:40:11 pm: I'm gonna move this to Around the Campfire.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: globalmark on March 31, 2019, 03:51:49 pm: Hi Pat
No worries sounds good
Mark
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: burchett.donald on March 31, 2019, 05:48:05 pm: Mark,
Looking good...Make sure you are using a respirator, I remember the days of a drum sander and a glass layout...You are bringing up past memories...Here's a few pics of the only recurve I have left...This was a Bingham project and I used Curly Maple on the riser and limbs...
Don
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 01, 2019, 11:34:37 am: Quote from: globalmark on March 31, 2019, 02:19:43 pm
HI Guys

Thanks for the Laughs - I have gone ahead and made my Glass - horse bow , came out very nice , still needs little work but almost finished .
Have listed some pics on another site and put link here - But guess no-one interested anyway as used fibreglass

http://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=167160.new#new

Hahahah
thanks Mark

They beat you up on Tradgang just the same as here because you cut a shelf in YOUR bow. I wish people would stop all the nit picking. Its one reason I rarely contribute to bow building sites anymore. I understand separating glass bows from wood bows on this site. But then somebody always wants to further separate wood bows into four more categories to suit their own views. I think you made a fine bow and I hope you enjoy it. That is why you made it.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: globalmark on April 01, 2019, 04:26:38 pm: Hi Pearl Drums

Thanks for those kind words - i have thick skin so dont mind what people say - and like cooking i never follow a recipe anyway do what i feel is right -
Horse bows dont have Glass anyway so a shelf really dont make a difference Hahaha -
I agree you can always separate into more categories ..
I enjoy making things more then shooting Bows so for me that's the enjoyment ..

Thanks again
mark
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on April 01, 2019, 05:20:08 pm: Im looking fwd to seeing it strung and finished!
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: IrishJay on April 01, 2019, 06:04:26 pm: Nice looking bow Mark. Let us know how she shoots.
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Post by: Hawkdancer on April 01, 2019, 10:27:31 pm: Real glass came along not too long after real wood bows, or so! Health warning!! It is much safer to remove the horn from the critter before attempting to drink from the horn - the critter may strenuously object!! Hope the bow shoots well! See my reply to Irishjay's post. I am trying to find a good drinking horn at the same time I have money/trade goods to acquire it! >:D (lol)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 01, 2019, 10:50:05 pm: Quote from: maitus on March 22, 2019, 11:33:51 pm
I want to make a rifle. Any advise is welcome! How much gunpowder should i use? 8)
Maitus, if it is to be center fire, by all means stay below about 40 grains or so depending on load data! If it is a muzzleloader, you can go up to about 150 gr 2Fg with a round ball, in a .58 caliber-however, expect a rather severe kick to your shoulder. That was Mario Medina's favorite load from his .58 cal. Hawken rifle. Btw, (war story) (grain of salt required) a couple guys told me they would reload 7.62x39mm ammo with C4 explosive and leave it for bait for the Veit Cong. Never heard about any test results, though! >:D
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: mullet on April 02, 2019, 05:15:56 am: That bow looks good to me. And for what it's worth, James Parker makes a hybrid horse bow for people that can't afford a real one. He uses glass in place of sinew and horn on the belly. They shoot great, I have one.
Title: Re: want to make Fibreglass horse Bow - what laminations ??
Post by: sleek on April 02, 2019, 05:22:36 am: Quote from: Hawkdancer on April 01, 2019, 10:50:05 pm
Quote from: maitus on March 22, 2019, 11:33:51 pm
I want to make a rifle. Any advise is welcome! How much gunpowder should i use? 8)
Maitus, if it is to be center fire, by all means stay below about 40 grains or so depending on load data! If it is a muzzleloader, you can go up to about 150 gr 2Fg with a round ball, in a .58 caliber-however, expect a rather severe kick to your shoulder. That was Mario Medina's favorite load from his .58 cal. Hawken rifle. Btw, (war story) (grain of salt required) a couple guys told me they would reload 7.62x39mm ammo with C4 explosive and leave it for bait for the Veit Cong. Never heard about any test results, though! >:D
Hawkdancer

I have heard of stuff like that before. Its probably true. Cyanide laced wine being left comes to mind as well.