Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: upstatenybowyer on September 28, 2018, 05:43:47 pm
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Howdy everyone,
Some of you may have seen this bow when I posted a tiller check on it a week or two ago. Well here she is all prettied up. I'm kinda spiked about her cause I've been messin with these hard-backed D/R bows for a while now, tryin like heck to end up with one that holds some reflex and shoots real fast. This one feels like all the failures might have been worth it. She holds about 1" of reflex, draws very smooth, and shoots in the high 170s.
Here are some details...
62" ntn
43# @ 27"
made from yew billets and a maple backing strip I ripped off the outside of a 10" diameter tree
maple and osage handle build-up
1 1/4" wide at the fades tapering to an inch (6" from the tips), then down to 3/8" for that last 6"
artificial sinew wrapped around the handle
cork arrow rest w/ small leather strike plate
buffalo horn tips
the design on the back is from a stencil and black sharpie
Let me know what you think and criticism is always welcome. :)
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Very nice Jeff. Looks like you maybe got it figured out. I like that Breast Cancer Awareness Shirt. First saw it when one of the scales gals at the grain elevator was wearing one.
Bjrogg
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Jeff,
ya outdid your bad self on that bow...170 fps from a 43# bow will kill anything ya got in your neck of the woods. Very well done....even if it does have a "handle", ::)
rich
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Nice bow
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There ya go! Great job. I like everything. The paint is really eye catching.
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Nice work Jeff...I seen your tiller post earlier on this one...Looks like ya dressed her up for the dance...She's a looker
Don
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Nice work, I really like that paint too
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Sweet outcome to your persistence.Who was it Jim Hamm saying that maybe sometimes we need to be more persistent than smart....Ha Ha.I know that saying has rung true with me.Like the art work too.Very nice bow there!!!
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Looks like all your hard work paid off on this one. Congrats! Cool Pattern on the back as well. Mike
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Thank you all very kindly.
BJ, not sure how much I got figured, but what I know I learned from the good folks here on PA. Like...
-with the right design, reflex can be preserved (Marc St. Louis)
-the backing strip can't be too thick or thin and has to be high quality (Marc St. Louis, Bayou Ben, Pat B)
-put the reflex in the outer limbs and make it gradual (Pearly, Bayou Ben, Badger)
-a good splice/handle build up is key (Eric K., DC)
-don't let the inners work too much (Simson, Aaron, Mark S., bushboy)
I could go on and on. These are just few that come to mind right away
Rich,
For a long time I've been obsessing over these wood-backed bows, but after seeing your recent thread and chatting with you a bit I feel a strong pull back to the primitive. Thank you for the compliment, but thank you even more for the inspiration. ;)
Thanks Rob, DC, Don, Aaron and M2A :)
Ed, whoever said that how right they are! Thanks buddy.
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Thats one good lookin bow
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That bow looks fine, I like the pattern on the back.
I think there is some more potential in this bow (if you like), I see asome inches more draw length
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Nice job on that one, looks like a serious shooter
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Good job, I like doing yew billets for a belly with a continuous back. best of both worlds :)
Del
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Thank you all. :)
I hear ya Simson, we debated that on the tiller check thread and I decided to leave it as is. Mostly cause I wanted to avoid set and didn't want to loose anymore weight.
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Thank you all. :)
I hear ya Simson, we debated that on the tiller check thread and I decided to leave it as is. Mostly cause I wanted to avoid set and didn't want to loose anymore weight.
Yep Jeff, leave it like it is when you like it - and 170fps don't lie!
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Your bow looks awesome mate. You must be well chuffed!
Si-ed :)
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Hey Mr. Upstate, I'd love to once touch that bow and let the arrows fly. Maybe - when the time is ripe - hopefully - I'll be able to do something similar. So your backing strip is right the outer rings of a tree as if ob a sapling bow? What machinery do you use to cut the strip from the stave properly: Bandsaw? Circular saw? And then carefully reduced with a beld sander?
Thanx for showing and cheers.
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Thanks sieddy. I had to look up the definition of "chuffed." O:) ;D
simk, I'd love for you to shoot it! Only a handful of guys (and one gal) have ever shot my bows and hearing what they have to say is always priceless. So yes, the backing strip is the outside of a sugar maple (just under the bark). I start with a sledgehammer, wedges and a hatchet to get a roughed out piece that's thin enough to run through the bandsaw. Then I use a joiner to flatten it out and get it close to 1/8 of an inch. Lastly, I use a belt sander and calipers to finish it off. It's a lot of work, but at least I know I've got a very solid backing.
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Well done! Observed your previous attempts and they got better each time. The speed on this one says it all. Pretty finish too! I see more patterns and paint on bows lately. Nice way to make a bow stand out even more.
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Jeff,
I like it!, nice lady
Hans
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That is a great looking bow. Persistence paid off! I like the design on the back of the bow...great job!
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Excellent job Jeff! I bet she's smooth and obviously fast. A fun shooter I'm sure. I like the art work too.
And you've inspired me to make backings that way. I've read about Marc doing it that way but never tried it. Should be a reliable rock solid backing.
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Jeff that's a beautiful bow and sounds like a contender for MJAM flight shoot. Well done. Arvin
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Sir thank's a lot sir for unveiling that backing secrets ;D I was thinking about a hazel-backed one often - maybe I should try. Do you think it works with a nice 3 - 3 1/2" diameter stave? [and yes, the ornaments are very nice too] cheers
[never backed a bow but it looks like fun]
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Great job! That a beautiful bow and great profile. I bet it's a shooter too.
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Thanks Leon, I do feel like I get closer to what I'm aiming for with each attempt. It really is true that mistakes can be the best teachers. (--) :BB
Thank you Will. Maybe I should call this bow "persistence." :D
I'm pretty sold on cutting my own backings now Ben. It's kinda tedious, but the peace of mind is worth it IMO. Thanks for helping me understand how to make this style work. Your input has been spot on. :OK
I'd love to try some flight shooting Arvin. That video of you shooting your bow looked like it must be a great feeling. (SH)
I think it could work with a smaller diameter stave simk. There'd be a bit of a crown, but with a tension strong wood that shouldn't be a problem. Never tried hazel, but give it a try and let us know how it works!
Thanks Mark, much appreciated. :)
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yup thats a gooooood one
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Nice looking
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Nice work! Persistence and perserverance paid off!
Hawkdancer
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Gotta love the look of this bow!
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Looks good congrats. Arvin