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Title: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: silent sniper on July 24, 2018, 10:52:54 am
Hello everyone,
Here is my latest creation, a hickory backed red cedar longbow with a mild r/d profile. 66.5” NTN, 41@28”, symmetrical design, 1-5/16” wide at the fades with a 12” taper to Ό” tips
I have been wanting to build a backed red cedar bow after seeing first hand several that had been built by Marc St louis. They were very light in the hand and an absolute joy to shoot.
 
I could not find a cedar board with a long enough section of straight grain, so I ripped a 36” board in half and used a tapered finger splice to connect the two pieces together. The splice location allowed for a beautiful mix of heartwood/sapwood through the handle and top limb.  I then added the 1/8” thick hickory backing and glued in ½” of reflex and ½” of deflex.  The handle section was then glued on with a mix of white oak, jatoba, and hickory strips.

 I glued up this blank back in January, but decided not to continue because I was fearful that the 35% humidity was too low for red cedar. Hearing stories of them exploding at full draw did not help my confidence…. 

Fast forward to a couple weeks ago when I saw the stave sitting on the rack and decided it was time to finish it

Cedar is wonderfully easy to work and the smell is delightful. I did find that it is very touchy to adjustments in tiller.  This bow was a bit difficult to tiller. It required re-tillering twice while shooting it in because the limbs started to fret at the fades from being too narrow/stressed.  I reduced the overall draw weight and got the mid limbs working more to combat the fretting. I believe I have it fixed now but only time will tell.

I usually tiller all my 3 under bows to have an even tiller. On this bow I ended up with a 1/4” weaker top limb which showed the best full draw profile. Both limbs hold just under 1” of string follow with an additional Ό” of set directly after shooting.

The bow was finished with 3 coats of Shellac and 3 coated of water based spar. I then used some 0000-steel wool to cut down the shine. A glued on brown leather grip and shelf rest with beaver tail side plate finished the bow.
 
The bow shoots 10 gpp arrows at 163 fps with a 27.5” draw. It is lightweight and snappy and is a pleasure to shoot. The bow turned out exactly how I had hoped it would except for the minor tillering issues.

 I really like the backed cedar bow design. It makes for such a lightweight and sweet shooting longbow. I will make my next cedar bow 1-1/2” wide at the fades and taper the belly before glue up.  These should result in a bow with less set and better performance.

Enjoy SS

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/924/28714756817_ef0cb81883_c.jpg)
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 (https://flic.kr/p/KKqCN6)
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: silent sniper on July 24, 2018, 10:57:31 am
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/854/29732231698_ac4bc66364_c.jpg)
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 (https://flic.kr/p/MiksCs)
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: silent sniper on July 24, 2018, 10:59:27 am
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/927/29732222508_93d1d48e57_c.jpg)
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[url=https://flic.kr/p/Mikuqq](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/923/29732237728_e61484d33c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MikpU1)
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: bushboy on July 24, 2018, 11:21:31 am
That turned out very nice!brace and full draw looks spot on!
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: DC on July 24, 2018, 12:01:46 pm
Very nice! The sheep eating grin tells it all ;D
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: Bayou Ben on July 24, 2018, 01:13:33 pm
Yeah I like the tiller on this one.  Very nice work!
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: leonwood on July 24, 2018, 01:37:58 pm
Very nice bow! That smile is what it is all about!
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: simson on July 24, 2018, 02:16:26 pm
Great work, looks good on all profiles.
But can't help, I'm no friend of those cut in shelves. And I see no need for it, the handle can be narrowed without any problem.
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: upstatenybowyer on July 24, 2018, 03:37:28 pm
Sharp lookin bow dude! )P(
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: M2A on July 25, 2018, 06:43:46 pm
Nice bow! I do like the subtle curves in the unbraced photos. Tiller looks great to me. Mike
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: bjrogg on July 25, 2018, 07:37:49 pm
Very nice bow SS. Love it when makes you feel like that. :)
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: tattoo dave on July 25, 2018, 07:57:51 pm
Great looking bow! Love red cedar but every one I’ve made has exploded. Will be trying another one soon. Nice work!

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: silent sniper on July 26, 2018, 10:39:11 am
Thanks everyone for the nice comments!

Simson, I agree with you that the cut in shelf is not the most attractive feature on an all wood bow. I have always made my bows with this design because I shoot it very well. At some point I will try a new sleek handle design that has a more primitive/traditional look.

Thanks,
SS
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: simson on July 26, 2018, 01:34:27 pm
I'm sure you will like it more ...
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: Marc St Louis on July 27, 2018, 06:50:22 am
Another very well made bow.  I'm sure it shoots quite well
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: wizardgoat on July 27, 2018, 12:53:30 pm
Nice profile and tiller on that one, good work
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: selfbow joe on July 28, 2018, 10:55:22 am
Beautiful bow
Title: Re: Hickory-backed Red Cedar R/D longbow, 66.5", 41@28.
Post by: txdm on July 28, 2018, 03:24:17 pm
Very inspiring. I finally glued up my red cedar / hickory board with 3" of reflex. I rounded the corners and cleaned the glue, added a handle block, but lately my shop has been too hot to work in (115°!)

Did you use inner tube wrap to glue it? What glue?