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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 02:11:11 pm

Title: juniper bow
Post by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 02:11:11 pm
Hi, this is a juniper bow that's been lying around for a while i decided to finish and photograph. 64" ntn, pulling 45@28. 1-1/4 at widest and 0.75 " at the nocks. Its has a slightly curved belly and back but more flat than deep. Its Juniper communis, which doesn't grow very thick where Im living - the trunk was about 3 inches. Shellacked. wrapped with linnen thread to hold a crack together that runs through the handle section of the bow. Handle wrapped with strips of leather. Got 3 small logs drying but wish I could get hold of lots of this stuff...Trying to quick dry a stave atm but it warps and cracks easily so have it clamped down. I have made a few Juniper bows before and its my favorite wood to work with next to elm. Wonder how similar it is to what you have in the US? Have heard that it breaks easily but so far so good. Anyways, it's quiet and pleasant to shoot with.
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Post by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 02:13:11 pm
Nocks and full draw
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Post by: DC on March 30, 2018, 02:31:03 pm
I like that one :D
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Post by: willie on March 30, 2018, 03:13:05 pm
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Wonder how similar it is to what you have in the US?
Juniperus communis- from wikipedia
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It has the largest geographical range of any woody plant, with a circumpolar distribution throughout the cool temperate Northern Hemisphere from the Arctic south in mountains to around 30°N latitude in North America, Europe and Asia.


So it could be quite similar. I have read reports from Swedish and Finnish bowyers about it being used "traditionally". Don't know if that means it was used in the near or far past. Is that a design from a historical find? or do you know of any old juniper bows from your area?

In the US, we have a few different  juniper species , not sure which may have been preferred by Native American bowyers, but it is often backed with sinew.
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Post by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 03:45:38 pm
The juniper here looks different from the stuff often called Juniper in the US so sometimes wondering what varieties of juniper people are using.

The bow is not based on any particular find.  I heard a lot growing up that the bows in the olden days in Scandinavia was made from juniper but I have never seen any proof of any old juniper bow finds from Europe but I imagine it must have been used. Without much experience working with yew it seems juniper can make the same narrow bend in the handle longbows without backing.
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Post by: mullet on March 30, 2018, 05:59:53 pm
Wow! that's cool.
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Post by: Bob W. on March 30, 2018, 06:16:47 pm
Looks like it can handle the bend no problem and a sweet bend it is! Nice one!
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Post by: High-Desert on March 30, 2018, 07:14:16 pm
Well done! I like that look.
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Post by: StickMark on March 30, 2018, 08:28:59 pm
Great photographs.  Love the simplicity of design.
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Post by: Bob Barnes on March 30, 2018, 09:43:31 pm
That's a very nice bow.  I'm working on one now that is Juniperus scopulorum or Rocky Mountain Juniper.  We also have lots of Eastern Red Cedar which is Juniperus virginiana.
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Post by: willie on March 30, 2018, 10:18:23 pm
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The juniper here looks different from the stuff often called Juniper in the US

Does your juniper communis have red heartwood like the southern (US) varieties? Perhaps your bow made completely from the sapwood? I will have to look for J. communis when I get someplace where it grows. No juniper of any kind nearby.
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Post by: Morgan on March 30, 2018, 10:52:24 pm
Looks very much like an eastern U.S. native bow. I love it.
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Post by: PaSteve on March 31, 2018, 08:37:48 am
Neat looking bow. Well done. I like it alot.
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on March 31, 2018, 08:53:51 am
That's a sweet bow!
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Post by: Stixnstones on March 31, 2018, 09:31:40 am
Very cool bow!
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Post by: Billinthedesert on March 31, 2018, 09:42:14 am
Aksel, it is simple -- and lovely. What part of Northern Europe do you reside in?
We do have a number of junipers here in the U.S., especially in the West.
My understanding is that it was the tradition of some First Nations cultures here to harvest staves from the bottom side of juniper limbs still attached to the tree. I've always wanted to try this.
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Post by: Aksel on April 01, 2018, 04:29:09 am
Thanks guys! The Juniperus Communis has a very light brown/cream colored heart wood comparing with Juniperus Virginiana and J Scopulorum. Im in Sweden btw.

Cheers
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Post by: Bob Barnes on April 01, 2018, 07:30:29 am
so far, the heartwood color hasn't mattered in the juniper bows I have made...they have been all sapwood.  The Juniperus scopulorum that I sinewed yesterday is even a belly split, but I will loose the heartwood everywhere but the grip/dips by the time it's tillered.  Your bow is a beauty.
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Post by: Badger on April 01, 2018, 07:37:35 am
  That is a good design for that bow, looks great.
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Post by: selfbow joe on April 01, 2018, 08:36:09 am
Nice looking bow
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Post by: BowEd on April 01, 2018, 09:45:10 am
Nice looking juniper bow there.
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Post by: Hawkdancer on April 01, 2018, 11:43:54 am
Bill,
I think the First Nations took the staves from the top part of the limb, at least that is what shows in the TBB, minor point, though!  Some one has posted about finding junipers with the scars still evident.

Aksel, very nice bow!
Hawkdancer
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Post by: Hans H on April 01, 2018, 01:52:19 pm
nice bow
Hans
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Post by: Billinthedesert on April 02, 2018, 08:47:31 am
Hawk, you may be correct.  I am getting old and forgetful.
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Post by: Hawkdancer on April 02, 2018, 11:49:43 am
I know about that problem!!  The mind goes first, I don't remember what's second! >:D

Aksell,  real ice bow!  Hope to be able to score some juniper this season.
Hawkdancer
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Post by: stickbowbeard on April 02, 2018, 12:08:50 pm
Impressive bow!  I love it!  I don't think I had ever heard of anyone making an unbacked juniper bow before.  And almost no set!  Great job!
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Post by: Greg DeJanes on April 02, 2018, 01:50:08 pm
Love the European flare. Killer tiller too.

Thanks,
Greg
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Post by: Springbuck on April 04, 2018, 10:11:54 pm
That's a beautiful bow.   No backing at all?
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Post by: Aksel on April 05, 2018, 03:58:31 am
Thanks everyone!

Springbuck: it's backed with thin air  8)
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Post by: bjrogg on April 05, 2018, 05:30:38 am
Thought I already replied to this one, guess not. Nice bow Amstel. Like the bend and it looks like that piece of juniper does to.
Bjrogg
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Post by: hoosierf on April 05, 2018, 11:36:01 am
No set, very impressive. Cool bow.