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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: John K on March 26, 2008, 06:03:05 pm
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Hi all! Just wanted to get your take on how the tiller looks on this hard maple bow. Thanks for looking. Remember this is the first one that hasn't broke on me.
Thanks, John
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/HardMapleFullDraw.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hardmaplebraced.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hardmaplebow.jpg)
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Hay john Congrads! looks pretty good.
I broke my first 3 or 4 or otherwise screwed them up bad so ur not alone.
Now just my opinion and realize that I dont know beans. Only have made 2 shooter bows so far but this is what I think of your tiller.
Looks good at brace height.
But I think you got a bit of a hinge at the arrows and need to take a few more scrapes off at the dot areas.
on the other hand... if you are at your weight and if she flings an arrow... go shoot 'er and have fun... first bows are a sense of accomplishment... good job.
but like I said im a newbie... sure others will pipe in here with more opinions...
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/n2everythg/BowBuilding/tiller.jpg)
N2
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well i'm pretty new to this yet so you might want to wait for the more experienced and knowledgible ones to speak up.
however i would half to say that both limbs could bend more right after the handle area more for about the next 8-10 inches,but like i said i'm still pretty new and ignorant at this.
good luck
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Well I'm not so new, but still pretty ignorant. I think N2 is pretty darn close on his assessment. I would Mark the hinge on the left limb so you don't take any more wood off there then work the areas on either side. I don't really see a hinge on the right, but it could definitely use more bend on the inner part toward the fades. The right limb also seems to be bending a little farther than the left. You are doing really good, just stay away from that 2-3" area on the left limb. Justin
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John are you supposed to be playing with bows at work :o I would never do that ::)
What n2 and justin said, how long is the bow if ya get a little light you can pike it a few inches
also an unbraced picture will help. Your doing good so far John just remember to take yer time eh :)
Dats good Yooper wood there :P
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John..................I think its a great bow fer the first that hasnt broken. Yer skills will improve at a rapid pace. Maybe like the other guys said the left limb either side of where the hinge is forming. A few scrapes thats it. Leave right limb alone. Enjoy the bow good job .........bob
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This way always helps Me nail the problem areas....hope that it will help You too...
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In the first full draw picture, too much bend a foot above your hand and a foot from the string nocks in the lower limb. You need a tillering gizmo to tell you where to remove wood.
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In the first full draw picture, too much bend a foot above your hand and a foot from the string nocks in the lower limb. You need a tillering gizmo to tell you where to remove wood.
Yeah get you one of these....they work great!!
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as much as you could take off with a spoke shave or draw knife.... i like to use 400 grit sand paper and work reeeeeeaaaaaal slow it keeps the breakage down... and it can help cut down on time to burnishing
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I think N2 pretty well nailed it, your basic shape is pretty good but need to smooth out the stiff and hingy spots, Steve
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I also think n2 hit it pretty close,Top limb looks a little stiff 2/3 toward the tip and the bottom
about 2/3 toward the handle.Go slow and just a few scraps at a time and exercise 30-40 times in between. :)
Pappy
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Hay Yankee... where did you get that elliptical circle thingie...
how did you make that... I like it. nice way to tell what you are shooting for.
N2
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Well I'm not so new, but still pretty ignorant. I think N2 is pretty darn close on his assessment. I would Mark the hinge on the left limb so you don't take any more wood off there then work the areas on either side. I don't really see a hinge on the right, but it could definitely use more bend on the inner part toward the fades. The right limb also seems to be bending a little farther than the left. You are doing really good, just stay away from that 2-3" area on the left limb. Justin
I second the motion.
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Thanks everyone for you'r input. I took N2's advice and took a little off where the dots were. It pulls 55#'s @ 29inches the over all length is 70 1/2 ttt. I'm going to shoot it tonight for the first time, I can't wait !
I have BBB real bad now ( bow builders brain ) ;D
I like the looks of that tillering gizmo, i think i need to make one, i was just using my leather man closed running it along the inside of the limb looking for flat spots.....
I'll post for pics when i get it shot in and stained.
Thanks John
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John ya can make a tillering gizmo like that with a 6" piece of wood, a nut and a pencil.
Basiacally ya drill a hole in the middle, inset a nut, then screw a pencil thru so its adjustable.
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John are you supposed to be playing with bows at work :o I would never do that ::)
What n2 and justin said, how long is the bow if ya get a little light you can pike it a few inches
also an unbraced picture will help. Your doing good so far John just remember to take yer time eh :)
Dats good Yooper wood there :P
It helps when you'r Ma owns the place ;D
Thanks Dana, i'll do that.
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Nice bow Its a great feeling to see that first arrow fly. You have made something you can actually hunt with and that is a great achievement in my book.
Jesse
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Ya know we should arrange a get together me, venisionburger, Jesse, formerbutcher maybe meet down around menominee/marinette eh?
John ya need to change yer screen name to something shorter maybe you could change it to John ::) ;) :D
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I agree. Me and VB tossed around the Idea of starting some kind of group for us up here last year but never did anything about it. It would be good to get an event going up here. Im sure folks would start coming out of the woodwork and we could have something going in no time. Dana your in charge of everything :D
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tillering gizmo how to.
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=033419
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Thanks Eric I couldn't remember where I saw it ::)
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Hay Yankee... where did you get that elliptical circle thingie...
how did you make that... I like it. nice way to tell what you are shooting for.
N2
I use Microsoft Paint...but you can also use Photoshop to do it too....it's really easy and it sure helps to nail your Tiller....just have to make sure that when you take a Picture...the Bow is either in the Tiller tree...or you are holding it perfectly straight...so the Arcs hit the Bow true.....
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I agree. Me and VB tossed around the Idea of starting some kind of group for us up here last year but never did anything about it. It would be good to get an event going up here. Im sure folks would start coming out of the woodwork and we could have something going in no time. Dana your in charge of everything :D
Sounds great ! I would make the drive up, i have a buddy that is getting the itch to build a bow too !
I shot "Da Yooper" last night for the first time, It will definetly kill a deer, but i'm going to try for a Turkey first. I'll try and get some more pics up today of her unbraced. ;D
JohnK
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Here's a pic of bow unbraced. Looks like it took about 2inches of set.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/unbraced32809.jpg)
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John that ain't bad at all, now you need to make a reflexing form and pick up a heat gun.
Glad the stave worked out for ya.
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John that ain't bad at all, now you need to make a reflexing form and pick up a heat gun.
Glad the stave worked out for ya.
Ditto!