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Title: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 24, 2008, 08:24:38 am

...well, my first bow back after several months of not being able to work on anything.

My first project is a Red Oak one, not the perfect board (quite a few run offs) will be backed eventually ( I got a new idea about this )

I was really sick this week, so yesterday was the first time I could put a rasp to it.

this is how it looked this morning,..still using the fine side of the ferrier rasp at the moment, it floor tillers really strong still


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/001.jpg)


this is the morning view from my fair weather working area

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/002.jpg)

had to go to work all day,..but lets see what tomorrow brings ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: Pappy on March 24, 2008, 09:11:28 am

Looking good so far,nice sleek start on that one. :) Keep us posted.
Pappy
   

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: GregB on March 24, 2008, 09:57:45 am

The bow is looking good, and so does the scenery! :)

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 24, 2008, 04:06:02 pm

thanks guys, ...yeah the scenary shot was what made me post this pictures really ;D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: hawkbow on March 24, 2008, 04:53:48 pm

Very nice bow... what is all of that green stuff in the background....we have wind and snow coming..Hawk

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: Ag09 on March 24, 2008, 06:22:01 pm

That looks awesome.  The bow and the scenery both.  Where do you live? 

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 24, 2008, 06:27:10 pm

Alright! Good to see you back and building, Manny. Jawge

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: Rich Saffold on March 24, 2008, 06:47:25 pm

Now I Know right where you live Manny! Trees are bigger now, mountain looks the same..I'm interested to see your backing idea.
Rich-

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 24, 2008, 10:15:18 pm

Being rasping and scraping for a couple of hours today ( what a plesure to work wood with hand tools is, so relaxing, time just flys)

I think I pretty much got to the desired profile ( once I put the backing on, because of all the run offs it's gonna go to a certain extent on the side of the limbs, so I'll want to avoid side tillering)

it still floor tillers a bit strong, I'll go work on it a bit and when it gets dark I'll start the reflexing/belly tempering stage.

pics to follow

Rich I'll PM you, I'd like to pick your brain about this backing idea I just got ;D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 25, 2008, 12:30:46 am

O.K., I think I got to the profile I was looking for

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/006-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/007-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/004-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/005-1.jpg)

..Well, I'm gonna go shoot some arrows now, and tonite she'll get an artificial tan, and some artificial new curves ;D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: Dano on March 25, 2008, 01:10:12 am

NICE!!! Kind of a strieght piece of wood for you ain't it? ;D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 25, 2008, 01:24:20 am

Yeah Dano,...tell you what, ...it's hard working those strait bows, you really gotta pay attention :D :D

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 25, 2008, 03:38:57 am

now she rests, after belly tempering and refexing, tomorrow nt Ill do a moe inense belly tempering,paying more attention now that i don' have to do any bending

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/008-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/009-1.jpg)

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: Pappy on March 25, 2008, 07:57:40 am

Looking really good,I am with you on them straight ones,You really have to watch. ;) :)
    Pappy

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: GregB on March 25, 2008, 09:54:40 am

Quote

Yeah Dano,...tell you what, ...it's hard working those strait bows, you really gotta pay attention

Quote

Looking really good,I am with you on them straight ones,You really have to watch.

So you can make a bow outta a straight piece of wood...I didn't know that! Always learning something new on PA...what a great site! ;D

Greg

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 25, 2008, 05:31:58 pm

You Tennesse boys are funny, one day I gotta come visit, and hunt some deer with you guys ;)

Title: Re: My first bow
Post by: adb on March 25, 2008, 06:14:05 pm

What about backing it with rawhide?

Title: Re: My first bow.......(pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 25, 2008, 10:02:08 pm

....O.K., this is how I'm gonna back it.

one layer of thin silk, than one layer of thin cotton, this should make it bulletproof, even with all the run of it should hold (I hope ;D ;D)

I'm hoping the 2 glue lines and 2 fabric layers will work a bit in retaining some reflex too :)

Title: Re: My first bow.......(pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 26, 2008, 06:51:28 am

How about this,

both last nite and tonite tempering the bow I had beads of moisture surfacing, I can't remember ever reading a thread where someone mention this on tempering board bows.

Has it happen to you ?

Title: Re: My first bow.......(pics)
Post by: Keenan on March 26, 2008, 02:36:13 pm

Your in Hawaii Bro ther are beads of moisture on everything ;D :D Just caught this one and she's looking sweet, good luck with it Manny. Sounds like a good approach with the backing. Don't know what to say on the beads, never had that befor.  Keenan

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 31, 2008, 09:07:53 pm

TEMPERED, REFLEXED AND BACKED, ...now the scary part starts,....TILLERING :o :o


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/002-1-1.jpg)


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/001-1-1.jpg)

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: huntertrapper on March 31, 2008, 09:29:28 pm

wow, thats a neat backing, really like that. the hogs ya hunt will think a tigers near. :)

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: OldBow on March 31, 2008, 11:19:37 pm

Wow I sure do miss Hawaii! Haven't been there the last two years.
When you compare your outdoor pics with DanaM's there's no question where I would like to be.
Also, I had to stop shooting arrows outside because we have had so much new snow the last few days.
Looking forward to seeing your final product.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 01, 2008, 12:53:32 am

She's bending so nicely on the tree that I was almost tempted to yank her to full draw...better not ;D

Question:....I forgot,.... long string shows stiff or week tips ?

thanks

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 01, 2008, 05:21:19 am

TTT,...stiff or week with long string ?, I REALLY CAN'T REMEMBER ::) ::)


Don, next time you're in the islands give us a call.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Pappy on April 01, 2008, 07:23:14 am

Ant sure,only use long string until I get the tips out to 7 or 8 inches then I put it to a short brace.
 and go to the tiller tree. Someone will come on soon I would bet and tell you.Looking good.
You changed your name,thought this was someone new. ;D ;)
    Pappy

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Hillbilly on April 01, 2008, 10:08:15 am

The long string can make the tips look stiffer than they actually are, I had one that looked good on the long string but when I braced it it was whip-ended. I try to get them off the long string sooner now. That's looking great, Manny.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: stiknstring on April 01, 2008, 12:18:10 pm

Yup I agree with Hillbilly....I was always taught and noticed more bend in the inner third with the long string so you want to make sure that the tips look stiff.  Cool fabric...is that the cotton or did you find printed silk that color?

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 01, 2008, 04:39:59 pm

I thought it was stiff,...thanks guys, I'll get her to brace as soon as I have a chance

Cotton it is stiknstring

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Gordon on April 01, 2008, 05:49:04 pm

...like others said, makes the tips seem stiffer than they really are.

I like the backing - does it match your surf board?  :D

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: cowboy on April 01, 2008, 06:19:07 pm

Nother good lookin bow - I like your backings! giving me more ideas, I need to stop gettin ideas and start using them ;D.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: stiknstring on April 10, 2008, 01:23:12 am

Hey Manny when we gonna see the full draw of this one?

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 10, 2008, 06:48:50 am

It's finished, .....but the weather turned real bad so I'm holding of on spraying the finish it.

It turned out really nice ;D ;D

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Canoe on April 10, 2008, 10:28:23 am

Howdy N. Pirate,

What widths do you have on that board bow - at the fades, mid-limb, and near the tips?

My red oak board bows are about 2" wide until mid-limb, yours seem much narrower?

Thanks, and good luck,
Canoe

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: stiknstring on April 10, 2008, 12:09:54 pm

Can't wait to (SEE)  it....

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: OldBow on April 10, 2008, 01:07:40 pm

Quote from: stiknstring on April 10, 2008, 01:23:12 am

Hey Manny when we gonna see the full draw of this one?

Ditto (for BOM)

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: jwillis on April 10, 2008, 05:53:34 pm

That backing is super cool!  Jim

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 10, 2008, 06:38:14 pm

Well it's still 90% humidity and raining, I won't spray a finish untill I'll be able to put this bow in the backing sun for a couple of days ;D ;D

Here's where I'm so far, I'm really happy by the retained sligth reflex :)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/009-2.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/010-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/011-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/012-1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/013-1.jpg)

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 10, 2008, 11:57:02 pm

Ho yeah, Canoe, 1 1/2" at the widest

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: bowkill on April 11, 2008, 12:58:22 am

What kind of glue did you use for the backing?

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 11, 2008, 09:45:42 am

Beauty of a bow! Jawge

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Ryano on April 11, 2008, 11:22:41 am

Nice bow Manny. Why the name change?

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 11, 2008, 11:54:42 am

bowkill, I used TB III

thanks George,

Ryan, ..well I was thinking to change to this name for a while, but I wanted to do it on every site, but I wasn't able to on tradgang, ...than the oder day I got kicked out (again ;D ;D), so I whent ahead and change it across the boards :)

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Dano on April 11, 2008, 12:22:52 pm

"Nomadic Pirate" I like it!!! Nice work Manny, glad to see you back ate it.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 01:13:55 pm

 Wow that turned out sweet Manny, the finish on the back is really cool and profile is outstanding. I like the name as well. Somehow it fits you Bro. ;D

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Gordon on April 11, 2008, 04:41:19 pm

That's coming along well Mani. You did a nice job on the handle and the profile looks great.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Canerod on April 11, 2008, 06:14:03 pm

Nice job! I just got home with two red oak boards, gonna try and see if I can find a bow in one of them.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: cowboy on April 11, 2008, 07:46:50 pm

Like the color of the wood now, looks like a stain?

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 12, 2008, 01:09:20 am

Cowboy, yes it's a stain, SEDONA RED from Minwax

Keenan and Gordon, yeah I'm really surprised by the profile too, 1 3/4" of reflex after belly tempering, and keept 1/4" so far , maybe because I whent sooo slow tillering this one ;D ;D, didn't even brace it  untill I think I was pulling 16" or so.

Title: Re: My first bow.......RED OAK (pics)
Post by: Keenan on April 12, 2008, 02:30:59 am

Manny I just went back and looked at the last pic on page 3 I can't wait to see that incredible snake completeted. very nice color on the heart wood.   ;D  Keenan