Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Mo_coon-catcher on November 28, 2017, 04:31:35 pm
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I'm looking for your alls advice on this. Clean shaven vs having a beard when inverviewing for a job.
My opinion is that it depends on te particular job and if the facial hair is groomed and maintained. My buddy is in the clean shaven camp.
My situation is, I'll be interviewing for a position as a jailer at the local sheriffs department in a few days. I've had a beard for a couple of years now and feel like I keep it maintained well. The guys at the sheriffs department never mentioned anything about it when they told me about the position coming open. And I've talked to them a few times since then without them saying anything. My friend keeps saying it's better to shave it off. I have no problem doing so if it means job or no job, as I need to move onto something better with insurance and retirement programs. But at the same time I don't want to get rid of it if it won't make a difference. I feel as if it keeps me from looking 12 years old. Here's a picture for reference. It'll probably get trimmed up a bit even if I leave it. So what's your alls opinions?
Thanks,
Kyle
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Kyle, even with the hair, your appearance is that of a young man.
Imo, by keeping the hair, you're rolling the dice. I would recommend playing it safe.
GOOD LUCK with the interview!!
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From a tactical point, id shave it and cut it short. Especially as a jailer. In hand to hand, your whiskers make a great handhold to pull that pretty face of yours into someone's knee. At least look up their grooming requirments for the position, call another county and ask them if you are still uncertain.
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Odds are they have a clean face rule. Various masks have to fit at a moments notice.
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I suggest trimming it down short. If I had a job interview tomorrow I would trim mine down short or even into a goatee no matter what the job position was. The first impression is very important. Good luck
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Fundamentally, the most important thing at a job interview is how you present yourself, not the specifics of your appearance (although appearance does matter).
That said, you do have a young-looking face (as do I so I can relate). I'd go with a very short setting on your beard trimmer and get a nice, clean, military-looking type haircut at a good barber shop.
Best of luck my friend!
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Another vote on shaving. Right, wrong, or indifferent, people make judgements on others about their appearance. Some people like beards, some don’t. You don’t know what the hiring board may think, so don’t risk it. I am in a very stable position, and wear a beard in some form at all times except when I periodically travel to the corporate office in Texas, then I’m clean shaven.
Just my 2 cents.
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Kyle,
I agree with the shave/short trim goatee. Did you see any other jail personnel with beards? You will probably look young when you are 50 >:D!
Hawkdancer
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I don't think you would lose any points for not having a beard and you may lose some for having a beard. Lose the beard. It'll grow back. I had to cut my hair 4 times before the telephone company was happy. From shoulder length to preppy. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.
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I suggest trimming it down short. If I had a job interview tomorrow I would trim mine down short or even into a goatee no matter what the job position was. The first impression is very important. Good luck
I gotta go with Clint here but--- and I am not switchy-- I like your look in your post quite a lot.
Get the job and then let it grow on THEM.
Zuma
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I'll go with the short for now if that'll get me by before shaving. I'm afraid of my face breaking out or getting a rash or something since it's been a while since I've shaved. I worked at fast food for a couple years where I had to shave. It sort of makes it so you don't want to unless you have to. But I just needed the extra push to do it. I knew I should, but that extra nudge helps. Almost 26, and by tomorrow I'll look like I'm a high school freshman again. I'll have to post up a before and after. Luckily I know everyone there pretty well. I even graduated high school with one of the deputies and my grandmother helped the sheriff with his campaign.
Kyle
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Gee what are you worried about then? Good luck tomorrow!
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As the thespians say "Break a leg"! We're rooting for you.
Hawkdancer
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Shave it till you are there for awhile.. I've worked for my company for almost 35 years and have shaved mine at least 10 times. But, to be honest, doubt you will get hired with it for a Sheriff Dept., they tend toward the military cut.
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I liked upstate's idea re the military style haircut.
Glad you're not going in with one of those Schneider-looking bird nests!! >:D
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I think you are doing the right thing by going short or shaved, it shouldn't matter but to be honest I have done a lot of hiring over the years ans it does. Good luck, hope you get the job. :)
Pappy
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Kyle I know how you feel. Michigan has a 21 year drinking age. I got my ID. checked till I was about 40. Even now people that don't know always think my brothers are older than me. Maybe it's because I never really grew up.lol. I know it might bother you now but some day it'll feel good to be age slowly believe me that day will come soon enough. Make a good first impression and show your willing to learn anything you need to know.
Good Luck with the interview
Bjrogg
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Being a retired LEO. Shave. Go in well groomed as first appearance will mean a lot.
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I shaved it off this morning between running my trapline and going to work. And now I feel naked. The only part I didn't like about shaving it off, is working on growing it out for over a year. But a benefited job is more important. So I'll just wait and grow it back later.
Kyle
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Your positive attitude about this will pay dividends in the long run. Your young and will be down this road a few times in your life BUT put your self on the hiring end of the interview table. I think you made an excellent decision and keep us posted on your progression on this.
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Will do. This isn't the career field I went to school for. But who knows, I might end up liking it better. It was like that with Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Never had any inclination for any sort of fighting sport. But I've found that it's a lot of fun. So who know if I'll like this or not
Kyle
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I bet you let the cat lick it off so you wouldn't get a rash >:D
Couldn't help myself. Your looking good. Much sucess with a job
that is not only demanding but also dangerous. I hope to hear good news.
Zuma
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You will meet a lot of characters, some just there because of a dumb attack, some that are really dangerous, and some wannabes! You do have to watch your back, but it depends on where you are assigned. Most of the "guests" are short term, usually, and don't come back. Pulled stockade duty in the MPs, and saw a bunch of different types. Good luck, You will probably be able to have a moustache, and maybe a trimmed goatee. Avoid undercover work!
Hawkdancer
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You'll be fine... you look at least 13 ;)
Good luck.
Del
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Don't go in the door with that dumb look on you face. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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And dont leave with it either! Lol
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You made the right decision, good luck.
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Good decision Kyle, best of luck to you brother
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Bet that feels strange. I think you made the right decision to Kyle. Believe some day soon you will be happy to look younger than your age, I hope you feel younger than it to.
Good Luck with the job
Bjrogg
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You can always grow it back if it is acceptable.
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I know it feels weird to feel the wind against your face now. Lol. Howd it go?
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The interview isn't until tomorrow. But I'll let you know as soon as it's done. It feels weird with it not being there. I want to straighten and clean my mustache every time I eat or drink? And there's nothing there. Luckily it's been oddly warm so my face didn't get such a shock.its made it nice running a river trapline as I'm not fighting the ice yet. Just keeping the beavers out of te mink sets, and getting them to get in the traps intended for them. Collected a 40# one today and yesterday had one tear up a pocket set before pulling out of a 1.5 longspring.
Kyle
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Ask yourself this....you wanna give them anything they can get a hold of in a fight? There is a reason jailers don't wear ponytails!.
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What might help in the interview, is asking if the policy allows for a beard and what length. And then maybe if the opportunity arises to let them know what you did for the chance to work there?
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What might help in the interview, is asking if the policy allows for a beard and what length. And then maybe if the opportunity arises to let them know what you did for the chance to work there?
Nice
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What might help in the interview, is asking if the policy allows for a beard and what length. And then maybe if the opportunity arises to let them know what you did for the chance to work there?
Excellent advice
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I got the job! At the get go they said I was there too pick. After the initial interview that amounted to the sheriff telling me the pay, benefits, and job details. He showed the the facility and had me do a voice analysis questioning. Then he asked if I wanted the position and when I could start. I start on the 11th. Now the hard part, letting my current boss know I'll be leaving there.
Kyle
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Congrats!
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Congratulations Kyle, sounds like it all works out. Hope you still have time for that trap line.
Bjrogg
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Awesome, congrats Kyle!
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can you start growing your beard back? :D
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OUTSTANDING, are they furnishing your Sam Brown gear or do you have to buy it. It you have to buy it I will give you my old handcuffs as a gift.
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I can have a short and neatly trimmed beard. So it'll be back. They have a $300 per year allowance for clothes and equipment. I should still be able to make use of this years budget before next year hits. I should still have plenty of time to run te line. I'll be working fewer hours than I am now. Once I get to my normal hours it'll work out perfect.6pm-6am two days on two off. So when I get off I can run the line at the time I'd want to anyway. And in my days off I can wake up and go to BJJ class. Which he said their personal defense training is based on. So I'll have a head start there.
Kyle
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Now the hard part, letting my current boss know I'll be leaving there.
Kyle
A good boss will be happy for you, anything less than that simply justifies further why you are leaving for another job opportunity.
Good for you. Congratulations.
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You will like the 12 hour shift schedule. I've been working that for over 14 years now. I love having all of the days off. It's great in hunting season. You will have weekdays off to hunt when everyone else is at work. The woods will be empty.
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Now the hard part, letting my current boss know I'll be leaving there.
Kyle
A good boss will be happy for you, anything less than that simply justifies further why you are leaving for another job opportunity.
Good for you. Congratulations.
+1 what Jdub said.....just don't forget to make some wood shavings...:)
DBar
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I agree with JW to Kyle. A good boss is going to miss you, but be happy for you and wish you the best.
Bjrogg
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Congrats, bud!!
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Congratulations, hope everything works out for you.
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Way to. Go Kyle! A good boss will be sad to See you go, glad you are making an advancement, and glad to have you back if it doesn't work out! And buy you a drink when you meet downtown >:D :).
Hawkdancer
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Congratulations Kyle! :OK
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Congratulations Kyle. I used to work in a Sheriff's office jail. I loved working there. You get to meet so many great people that just made some very poor choices. I am sure you will like that job.
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good luck with the new job. I've worked for the County gov. for over 20 years and hope to retire soon. The benefits and retirement are what kept me here. And by the way my beard is doing just fine !
Bone pile