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Title: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Julian on October 27, 2017, 03:00:57 am
Hey, so I recently posted the longbow I made.

My scale arrived today, and the bow weighed in at 60#

I'm a healthy, fit guy but I'm quite new to trad shooting so I was wondering if I should lighten my bow. Otherwise I thought I'd make a new one, and aim for say, 35#, and shoot that one to build up form. I went to the range today and while I had no issues drawing my bow, I was starting to get sore in the neck before an hour was up so I feel like I should drop down in weight a bit.

thoughts?


On the other hand, the bow feels great, makes a really satisfying thud in the target haha.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Del the cat on October 27, 2017, 03:37:41 am
Don't drop to 35#, that's going from one extreme to the other ::).
Just use this bow a little at a time for a say a week then study it and re-work it to drop 5-10# It gives you a chance to improve the tiller if needed and it's not much of a job to rasp off little evenly from the belly.
A bow often needs a little fiddling and fettling after it's had 100 arrows through it.
Funny enough, I had a call from a guy last week. I'd made him a 60# with a Yew stave that he'd cut, he brought it back a while later and asked me to take off 5#.
He wants me to make him another now he's cut and seasoned another stave. He says he regrets having 5# taken off the first one ::)
The moral is, only ever take off half what you think you want.
Del
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Julian on October 27, 2017, 06:40:46 am
Thanks Del, will do :~)

Watching your youtube videos really helped me out, by the by!
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Stick Bender on October 27, 2017, 07:17:23 am
Great advice from Del I have found with these self bows that tolerable draw weight is a must for me other wise my form is off and with non center cut bows every minor flaw in form and release is amplified not getting the arrow where I want it , I don't have the time to shoot every day so working up to a new draw weight is off the table for me it may be different for you , but shooting a bow that's to heavy for you,you can develope bad form that's hard to get rid of later , but maybe different for you !
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Del the cat on October 27, 2017, 07:30:59 am
Thanks Del, will do :~)

Watching your youtube videos really helped me out, by the by!
Cheers :)
Del
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2017, 07:51:07 am
  If I could shoot a bow or an hour before I started getting sore I would figure it was about the right draw weight. Regular shooting should solve that in short time. I got badly out of shooting shape the last couple years and am struggling to work my way back. I can't even shoot for an hour LOL.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Julian on October 27, 2017, 07:59:54 am
  If I could shoot a bow or an hour before I started getting sore I would figure it was about the right draw weight. Regular shooting should solve that in short time. I got badly out of shooting shape the last couple years and am struggling to work my way back. I can't even shoot for an hour LOL.


I do feel as though the issue would go away if I got my stance / posture correct. I know I tend to tighten up and that's why my neck is sore.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 27, 2017, 08:31:46 am
Your neck is sore because you only draw one handed. I had the same problem big time because I would shoot for hours. One of the early superstars of traditional archery (Paul Bruner) recommend adding right and left hand drawing during a shooting session to even up the muscle development side to side.

I shoot ten arrows as a righty and pull my bow at least 5 or 6 times as a lefty just before I pull arrows.

One riddle with a perpetually stiff neck I tried his advice and my stiff neck problems disappeared.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: FilipT on October 27, 2017, 12:08:17 pm
Is your accuracy with non dominant hand worse because of it?
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 27, 2017, 12:12:38 pm
if the bow shoots well for you,, keep it or take off a few pounds,, I shoot close to 60# and enjoy it,,I have bows that are less if I want,, to work on my form,, or to shoot longer,, it is different for eveyone,, do what works best for you,,
I shoot my heavier bows just as accurate as the lighter ones,,, maybe better,, I just cant shoot as many arrows,, so I like having both,,, pulling with the off hand is a good idea,, also,,,stop before you start hurting and build up to shooting longer in a gradual way,,, if you want to shoot longer, ,then shoot less arrows per round,,say 3 or 2 instead of 5,,,
many times I am shooting one arrow at a time,,
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on October 27, 2017, 05:23:04 pm
Your neck is sore because you only draw one handed. I had the same problem big time because I would shoot for hours. One of the early superstars of traditional archery (Paul Bruner) recommend adding right and left hand drawing during a shooting session to even up the muscle development side to side.

I shoot ten arrows as a righty and pull my bow at least 5 or 6 times as a lefty just before I pull arrows.

One riddle with a perpetually stiff neck I tried his advice and my stiff neck problems disappeared.

Gonna tuck that away for later. Makes a lot of sense. Except I might just switch to a slightly lighter bow and shoot a few arrows from the "off side" for giggles.  Always wondered if with enough practice someone could shoot ambidextrous.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: TimBo on October 27, 2017, 05:27:17 pm
When you are starting off drawing from the "off" side, make sure you take it easy - I think I pulled at least ten valuable (to me) muscles the first time I tried it, since they weren't used to that task. 
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 27, 2017, 07:40:13 pm
I made a guy a bow that would shoot off both sides,, he shot target lefty and hunted  righty
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Dakota Kid on October 28, 2017, 12:27:56 am
Gonna tuck that away for later. Makes a lot of sense. Except I might just switch to a slightly lighter bow and shoot a few arrows from the "off side" for giggles.  Always wondered if with enough practice someone could shoot ambidextrous.

We had a member of our skeet club go blind in his right eye. He started shooting lefty. At first it was hard to watch, but over the course of a year his scores went from zeros to average. He was never as good as he was with his dominant eye, but after practice it was hard to tell he wasn't a natural lefty.
I tried shooting left-handed once. I had a hard time with everything from stance to shouldering to swing. I was barely able to get my left finger to pull the trigger.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Julian on October 28, 2017, 02:21:42 am
glad to see my mistakes generate some good discussion :P

started work on a new bow today, now I've got a scale I can work it out to a more reasonable weight for taking to the range
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: Hawkdancer on October 28, 2017, 10:37:40 am
More push ups, heavy duty therapy stretch bands, keep practicing, maybe shorten your shooting sessions.  Probably just need to get into "shooting" shape.  Take a break if your groups start getting bigger, stay at it though! Got to. Practice!  Old Sgt Major would say, "Gimme 10, young trooper" >:D!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on October 28, 2017, 05:03:47 pm
glad to see my mistakes generate some good discussion :P

started work on a new bow today, now I've got a scale I can work it out to a more reasonable weight for taking to the range

I tell you what, folks here learn more from bow failures than the ones that magically pop out of the stave, tillered, sanded, and dressed for the cotillion.
Title: Re: accidentally made a 60# bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 28, 2017, 05:15:21 pm
yes always good to know where the limit is,, :)