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Title: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 25, 2017, 08:03:10 am
You guys in Southeast Texas better batten down the hatches. Looks like this hurricane could be a biggy. Some areas expecting up to 36" of rain over the weekend. Be safe everyone!
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: BowEd on August 25, 2017, 09:28:18 am
That's just a plain phenominal amount of rain.The most I've ever seen it rain in my life was 7" in about 4 to 5 hours.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: bjrogg on August 25, 2017, 09:41:57 am
36" you'd better find some really high ground. I'm with Ed I've seen 7" twice and that's a lot. Wouldn't wish 36 on anyone 3 to 6" is a lot
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 25, 2017, 10:31:40 am
My daughter lives in Houston. She said she told her office workers to stay home and work from there until it all clears up.
 A few years back we had 3 remnants of hurricanes come up from the Gulf and we had 28" in a month. We get lots of rain here anyway but that was a lot. We've already over 50" this year.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: bjrogg on August 25, 2017, 10:44:50 am
Yea Pat 36" is just plain crazy. I'd be building a arc and loading the animals in pairs if it was here.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Bob W. on August 25, 2017, 11:49:20 am
Thanks Pat we've already had  an above normal amount of rain this summer  so this can get out of hand quickly with the surge pushing up the bayous and tropical deluges. If you have ever flooded in the past get out. I live in Galveston county and have never flooded at my house and we are staying put, I have gas for the generator and plenty of supplies just in case. I lost power for 10 days after Hurricane Ike and it was a cat 2 with 110 mph.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: jeffp51 on August 25, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
 We don't see 36 inches here in a whole year, nevermind in one day. Good luck to you and be safe.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 26, 2017, 08:35:50 am
Stirling Lynch lives in Victoria, TX. Hope all is well with him and his family.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: osage outlaw on August 26, 2017, 08:52:09 am
It looks like the eye just went over Victoria
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 26, 2017, 10:55:31 am
It's been hammering Victoria all night.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: mullet on August 27, 2017, 08:04:14 am
Yea, and it's going to stick around for a few days. For my Norther buddies, that much rain is common when a slow moving Hurricane comes ashore. They also had a 12' storm surge from the Gulf.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2017, 09:47:24 am
My daughter live in the middle of Houston. She sent a pic this morning with water up to her apartment building.
 Primitive Archer's office and warehouse are also in Houston. Let us keep everyone involved in our thought and prayers.
 
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2017, 01:25:30 pm
We also have other PA members and friends living in Southeastern Texas. Hope everyone is safe. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Zuma on August 27, 2017, 09:41:13 pm
Good thoughts and prayers for Texas. They were  sayin 50" before Harvey moves on.
Zuma
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2017, 09:43:45 pm
It might be until next weekend before it ends. Some places have already had 25".
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pappy on August 28, 2017, 06:34:21 am
WOW, we had 17 inches over 2 days back at the 13th Classic, I can't imagine 25 or 30 inches or more at one time, Hope they are fairing well, I will keep them in my prayers .I know it will be a challenge for all in the area for some time to come. Took us months to clean up after the flood we had and we didn't have the wind damage to go with it.
 Pappy
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: bjrogg on August 28, 2017, 09:11:42 am
Yes, I just can't wrap my head around that much rain. Totally amazing to me. That system just ain't moving much either. Just keeps sucking that water out of the Gulf.
Bless you All, your in my prayers.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: BowEd on August 28, 2017, 09:38:34 am
Just a devestating costly laborous time consuming mess.The lucky ones will have insurance.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 28, 2017, 10:11:33 am
A dam upriver from Houston is opening their gates to gradually let water out. Could put the Buffalo Bayou(through the center of Houston) another 6' higher today. The area could have lots more rain for the next 36 hours at least, also.
 My daughter lives in downtown Houston, right next to Buffalo Bayou. She is in a high rise apt. and she still has electricity. She works for Customs and Border Protection and is in touch with the DHS incident commander so she is keeping us posted. Marie's(Calendergirl) parents live in Houston also. They also are in a high rise along Buffalo Bayou and still have electricity. PA headquarters and warehouse are in Houston also but I fear they aren't faring so well.
Most of the flooded houses we see on TV will be total losses because of the water damage then comes the mold(remember Katrina in NOLA). This mess has just started.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Hawkdancer on August 28, 2017, 12:21:15 pm
I do hope that everyone done there is able to stay safe, and make it to some sort of shelter.  I heard on the news that emergency crews from the Denver region are preparing to head out to assist, and I would think many other support and infrastructure type personnel will be dispatched as well.  That much rain at one time is unheard of almost anywhere!

Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 28, 2017, 02:57:51 pm
Primitive Tim and his kayak tour company are headed that way right now to help with high water rescues and whatever good they can serve. 

If you can help them help the victims, go to the GoFundMe page they have set up.
h ttps://www.gofundme.com/a-day-away-hurricane-rescue-fund  (cut and paste, remove the space I put between the h and the ttps)
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: mullet on August 28, 2017, 03:59:39 pm
I'd like to hear about the Gypsum stack in Pasadena on the river and Bay the storm surge came through. It's only a few feet above sea level. 'if it collapses it will be dumping slightly radioactive, acidic Process Water in the river. It has done it before with devastating results to the fisheries in the area.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Bob W. on August 29, 2017, 08:01:33 am
I've had 30 + inches in the last couple days.The water got to the door but I was fortunate. Last night was bad but i think i may be out of the woods for my own house flooding. My sister lost 3 cars and her house. I can't get to my mom's house or my mother in laws to see the extemt of there damage. I Have aunt's and uncles and cousins in Sante Fe that lost everything. It's catastrophic down here right now. . My wife is a teacher in Dickinson  and the whole town is basically under water.  It's moving to the east of us right now so we should start drying out. Thank you for the prayers, we have a long road ahead!
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: bjrogg on August 29, 2017, 08:49:32 am
Yes Bob many prayers. This stuff doesn't get fixed overnight. Hang in there and stay safe
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Outbackbob48 on August 29, 2017, 07:35:02 pm
Not sure where Don Tower or Nate live, hope everyone is doing okay :( Bob
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: JEB on August 29, 2017, 08:08:15 pm
Outback, wife and I  had lunch with Tower a few years ago in New Braunfels, Texas and I believe he lived in the hill country, north of San Antonio. I thought he said the Georgetown area. I called my buddy yesterday who lives in that same area and they have had very little rain as of yesterday.

The guy that lives across the street from us owns the largest Kayak company in America.  They shipped  2000 Kayaks to the Houston area.  The Kayaks were purchased by Walmart and donated to the Houston area.They sent them out yesterday. The company covered the transportation costs to get them to Texas.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: upstatenybowyer on August 30, 2017, 09:36:33 pm
Thoughts and prayers to all those effected. Hang in there Bob.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 30, 2017, 09:49:39 pm
We started getting rain here this evening from Harvey. Just a light drizzle and we need it but I think the actual storm is heading up the Mississippi valley towards Tennessee.
 My daughter said the water had gone down some where she is and auto traffic was starting to move. She was lucky. She never lost power or had to evacuate. It's going to take a long time to recover from this historic storm. And with Harvey heading northeast all that water has to come back down the Mississippi River.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pappy on August 31, 2017, 03:43:26 am
Yep it is here now and will linger for a couple of days they say, nothing like what they got thank goodness, they say 3 to 7 inches in the next couple of days. It is so sad to see all them poor people, we had a flood here in 2010 and it was bad and took months  even years for some to recover most of what was lost but still nothing to compare with the one they have going on.  :(
 Pappy
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: upstatenybowyer on August 31, 2017, 07:34:16 am
Sure does put things in perspective.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: mullet on August 31, 2017, 08:06:35 am
What is gonna be really bad is another system is forming in the Bay of Campeche and is forecast to head straight for Houston.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on August 31, 2017, 03:23:14 pm
Boy I hope not. The Gulf surely doesn't need another storm. There is another just off of Africa coming towards the East Coast too.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: BowEd on September 01, 2017, 10:03:31 am
Good to hear your daughter is fine Pat B.I heard on the radio that according to their investigations only 20% have proper insurance for flooding.That always irritates me how insurance companies wiggle their way out of holding up to their end of the deal.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Pat B on September 01, 2017, 03:43:36 pm
The federal government covers the insurance companies butts with flood insurance and it's usually flooding that causes the most damage. I guess if you see tat your house will be flooded just light it on fire so your homeowners will cover it.  ;)
 Thanks Ed. She been very lucky living on the 3rd floor and her car is on the 4th and not loosing electricity. Meredith has been through a couple of hurricanes or tropical storms when we lived on the SE coast in SC so she got water for drinking and flushing, had plenty of food and wine and has lots of movies and shows to watch on TV or computer. Even though she is a homebody I'm sure she's getting cabin fever after a week in her apartment. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: 1442 on September 02, 2017, 01:14:53 am
I'm in Orange TX and it is really bad here between the Neches and Sabine rivers.
I've seen very little news to know much about the extent of damage outside this area, but Vidor, ,mauriceville, and Orangefeild have had massive devastating flooding.
The water from  Cow Bayou came up to the edge of our property and it is slowly receeding now.
The Neches has crested I think but the Sabine River is set to crest  tommorow
The water rescues right here are done and it is really quite and still compared to the last couple of nights.


Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: Bob W. on September 02, 2017, 07:07:20 pm
Ive spent every day since Wedn. Working on my Moms and sisters homes. My mom got several inches in her house. My older sister got 4 ft in her house and  could not get  in until Thurs. We spent yesterday  and today bustng out sheetrock and pullig out floor4ing and all her furniture, a lifetimes worth ruined along with 3 cars. She works at Nasa and we had a good crew today to help out  and was able to get alot done. Tomorrow i have to take out 2ft of sheetrock at my moms. My younger sister lives a long areek that rose over its banks Monday night. They watched it rise every night when the storms  were worse and the 4th and last night it flooded them with servall inches. Her and her neighbors are all helping each other clean out there houses. Idid not flood at my house although there were some intense moments and i dont have flood ins.. My mom and sisters live in Friendswood and i live in League city where we had 40+". Clear Creek was  higher than  than anyone ev6er seen it and thats what  flooded sveryone down here along with the creeks that feed it.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: 1442 on September 03, 2017, 10:56:28 pm
The water is still slowly falling here, maybe 6" last 24 yours
Lots of food and water available at distribution sites and some stores opening with gas and deisel too.
I went to Mauriceville and saw water marks where the water has fell at least three feet but still lots of flooded areas.
Neches is slowly falling still but Vidor run off is really slow because of the river so high and they still got a long way to go.
The sabine at Dewyville has been holding steady at 31.3 for 24 hrs.
The water has been flowing the opposite direction from normal along the highway here to.
Other than that it is absolutely amazing how people have come together from all over and are just working together to meet the needs of people here and they are doing it very well.
Just a quick update.

Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: bjrogg on September 04, 2017, 06:40:20 am
Thanks for the updates Bob and 1442. Feels like I have family everywhere now with beiypart of this group. Glad to hear that everyone is pulling together and helping each other. Glad to here water is going down now. It's so nice to see these disasters bring the best out of people.
Bless You All and hang in there.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: PrimitiveTim on September 04, 2017, 02:29:48 pm
I was in Vidor and it was really bad.  hundreds of cars underwater and on some houses you could step out of the boat right on to the roof.  Lots of rescue personnel, so many it seemed over staffed and several just hanging out waiting for a call.  Even a guy that came down from a helicopter couldn't find who he was supposed to rescue.  Seemed like a lot of misinformation and poor communication going on between people and the rescuers.
Title: Re: Hurricane Harvey
Post by: 1442 on September 04, 2017, 10:55:11 pm
Thankyou! Primitive Tim for being there to help people.
I grew up in Vidor and have lots of family and friends there.
Vidor schools have been suspended indefinetly as of now, and they still have a lot of water from the Neches but it is falling faster now. I 10 to Beaumont was opened this afternoon.
The rainwater in areas unaffected by the rivers have really gone down and most roads are passable now.
Lots and lots of homes are assessable now but many many more still have water in them too.
Traffic over the rainbow bridge has been crawling into port Aurther all day but I 10 reopening should relieve that.

I saw a massive operation setting up to repair a damaged railroad tressel in South Vidor too.

It's a mess.