Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: bjrogg on June 01, 2017, 07:43:54 am
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Been crazy busy since got back from Marshall, but late last night I mounted point and put self notch in this one. I trade with ksnow at Marshall. One of my stone point Red Osier hunting arrows and a nice obsidian point he picked out for about 30 store bought shafts he picked up that were spined to heavy for him. 1/2 dozen tapered shaft 67 lb spine 125 grain point 31 1/4" long. Bare shafted almost perfect first try.
Bjrogg
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I'd say that one is shooting well. :OK
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Thanks Pat, I thought they might work. That's pretty much exactly the same numbers that worked for my tappered shaft Red Osier Shoots. I'm thinking I might be able to tighten up my groups just a little bit with these shafts they look pretty nice. Thanks Kyle
Bjrogg
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Glad to hear those shafts will work for you. Maybe some day I will start shooting heavier bows. Thank you for the beautiful arrow and point. The wife has already laid claim to the point, it is destined for a display case.
Kyle
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That's great Kyle. I really gotta start working on organizing all my stuff. I did finally hang a bunch of my bows.
Bjrogg
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BJ looks like the center of that target has a little missing from it.
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Yea Rob and I've been picking at the corners for awhile now to. My son picked it up yesterday and said it was lighter than it use to be. Maybe get a new one for Fathers Day.
Bjrogg
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Kyle, I like this one so much I ordered the ones I got from the benefit auction at Marshall to the same specs. I'm happy with our trade, hope you are to.
Bjrogg
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That's great shooting with a very pretty arrow. I am very happy they worked well for you. I am planning to make a tobacco bag from the mink I got in the blanket trade, I'll post pics of the project.
Kyle
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Can't wait to see it Kyle.
Bjrogg
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Got two done now, both shooting good.
Bjrogg
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That ought to do it for you.
Kyle
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Nice arrows and good shooting!
Hawkdancer
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Thanks Kyle
Thanks Hawkdancer, if I keep shooting like that it won't take long to wear that spot off my target to. Hopefully get a new one for Father's Day. The kids all noticed how worn out it is. I started in the center moved to top spot now working on the side and bottom.
Bjrogg
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I scatter my shots at random. Helps my targets last longer
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I still scatter some around to Jeff, but I am improving. Still have some of those frustrating days when nothing seems to work.
Bjrogg
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When you find you are scattering your arrows, walk away. If it is a constant thing, get some well matched arrows.
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I agree Pat, although you gotta start some where and probably going to scatter em for awhile. In that case I say move close. Shoot good groups close then start moving around.
I also agree about the arrows. My cousin who really in a round about way got me started doing this stuff decided he wanted to shoot traditional fg recurves. He got a used bow and some carbon fiber arrows that the guy at the bow shop told him where spined for that bow. They had plastic veins and I told him to rip them off and put feathers on. So for the past year he's been shooting with plastic veins and there getting worn and ripped and he's still haveing trouble shooting. I told him again rip off those veins and fletch them. The next day he calls me very excited. He can't believe what a difference it made. I told him when he comes here in two weeks to bring his bow and we'll bareshaft some arrows and see what that does for him. If you have arrows that aren't flying right it's just plain bad form to practice with them. If the arrow doesn't know where it's going to go your brain and muscles sure aren't going to.
Bjrogg
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Instead of shooting groups, shoot one arrow thoughtfully at a small spot, retrieve it and shoot it again. Start at 10 yards and when you get consistent move out to 15 yards. Concentrate on the "spot", draw, anchor and release all the while concentrating on the spot. I rarely shoot groups. If I have a few arrows I'll shoot each at a different spot. I think when shooting groups each arrow shot interferes with your concentration for the next shots. I'm a hunting archer and I know I only get one shot so I try to make that shot go right where I'm looking.
Another practice I do is shoot at a small object hanging about 3' in front of the target butt. I use a piece of rigid metal conduit bent into a "U: shape with the ends stuck in the ground. I hang a small object by a thin string and shoot at that. I use the seed pod from a magnolia tree. It is about 2"x3" and sometimes I use something smaller. Also when hit the small target swings back and forth adding a little more interesting target to shoot at.
If you shoot at a basketball size target you will generally hit the target but not necessarily in the middle. As the target size decreases, say to softball size, you still can hit the target and you will be closer to the center because the overall size is smaller. Now shoot at a ping pong ball size target, the arrow is even closer to the center. This is what the phrase "aim small, miss small, means. So concentration on only a small, uncluttered spot should put your arrow close to the center of that spot so if your spot is only 1/4" that's a pretty good shot.
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Pat - Good advice on targeting small objects, should help picking out the right spot on game! I will have to try that!
Finally got my shoot arrows from the trade material spined, nocked and points glued on(125 gr) and got out to the range to test fire. Results were mixed >:D at best! 1. I used my 45# fg long bow that I haven't drawn in about 40 years, I did rework the string from scratch. 2. I am not in good form, and even had to redetermine my point of aim, 3. Got to the range while the 4H kids were shooting - did reestablish contact with their coordinator to possibly do a bow hunter safety course :)! 4. Managed to keep all the arrows in the butts at 7 & 10 yards, got good hits on the kiddie "dinosaur" target. The finished 2 fletch arrow I posted shot well, 4 arrows "tilted" left at 7 & 10 yards(I shoot left handed) the other four were pretty well straight on. I plan to shoot again with my 50# Bear Kodiak to see if there is a difference, then tune to it. All the arrows except the fletched one are numbered and marked for the stiff side. Arrows are 32 inches, my draw length is 26-27 inches, so I have room to shorten, if need be, but I like a longer arrow. Just have to find my 2blade broad heads now, steel is required in Colorado Hope to shoot tomorrow morning guys before it gets hot!
Any advice will be appreciated. I will try to post some pictures of the semi groups tomorrow
Hawkdancer