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Title: Plum ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 08, 2017, 04:58:05 pm
Been awhile since I made a bow, darn Harps taking up all my time lately.  I had cut a couple Plum last Spring and one of them was a fairly straight pole about 2.5" in diameter and 6' long.  One side was dotted with branches, some of them large, but the other side was pretty clean.  I roughed out the pole to rough dimensions by taking off the branch side last year to help with the drying.  Last month I brought it into my shop and cleaned it up even more then set it by my wood stove to dry it out some more.  I started working on it last week by working it down closer to bow dimensions and doing some heat straightening, it had taken a bit of a jog sideways at the handle while drying and the limbs needed some corrections as well.  No heat-treating was done though.  Because of the small diameter of the pole, I chose an ALB design with narrow limbs; they're just under 1 1/4" wide.  Length of the bow is 67" and draw weight just under 50# @ 28", the bow is quite slim.  Here's a few pics

(http://i.imgur.com/UoOZvBE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s46QTyF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NkNF5NM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0j9Ap3x.jpg)

It started out with a a few inches of reflex, most of that from the heat-straightening I did, and it finished with 1 1/2" of reflex.  I shot it several times in my shop and it shoots quite well.  Not quite sure if I will put a shelf and leather wrap on the handle yet so I'll leave it like this for now.  The finish is Shellac and Tung Oil
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: penderbender on April 08, 2017, 05:33:03 pm
That looks really nice. Great job! Cheers- Brendan
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: bjrogg on April 08, 2017, 05:39:48 pm
Good to see you making a bow again Marc. Doesn't look like you forgot anything. Beautiful bend and very simple clean stick. I vote for leaving it the way it is.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: BowEd on April 08, 2017, 05:46:55 pm
Cool bow Marc.Bet it's a sweet shooter.Good poundage from such a narrow bow out of a white wood.Sure wish that plum grew around here.I've got a winged elm stave though.That'll have to do.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 08, 2017, 06:15:38 pm
Thanks guys

I wouldn't classify Plum as a white-wood Ed.  I would classify it as first string wood.  Plum is easily as good a bow-wood as Osage and in fact as good as Yew.  It may not have the resistance to moisture of those 2 though
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Whiskeyjet on April 08, 2017, 06:36:29 pm
Hi Marc, newbie here with a dumb question. The back looks really flat for such a narrow limb...was the branch just kind of flat on that side? Do my eyes deceive me?
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: DC on April 08, 2017, 06:38:05 pm
Beautiful bow Marc. Makes me want to finish mine. I'm always impressed by how skinny you make the ends of your handles. Could you tell me how wide this one is at the top and bottom of the handle?
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: selfbow joe on April 08, 2017, 07:29:29 pm
Very nice looking.  Nice job
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on April 08, 2017, 07:44:15 pm
Beautiful as always Marc. I completely agree about plum being right up there at the first string tier of bow woods.  :)
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 08, 2017, 08:18:17 pm
The back may look flat but it's not, the narrow limbs make it look flatter.  It has a different crown at different points, some place high and others flatter.

If you mean the arrow pass then it's a bit under 7/8" and 1" at the bottom

The limbs have a shallow D section
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: DC on April 08, 2017, 08:36:37 pm
Yes, thanks Marc
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 09, 2017, 08:56:45 am
Very pretty grain and knots in that piece of wood, nice Marc.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: BowEd on April 09, 2017, 09:02:55 am
Thanks guys

I wouldn't classify Plum as a white-wood Ed.  I would classify it as first string wood.  Plum is easily as good a bow-wood as Osage and in fact as good as Yew.  It may not have the resistance to moisture of those 2 though
I see ok.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Whiskeyjet on April 09, 2017, 11:14:17 am
Thanks Marc, really sweet bow!
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: wizardgoat on April 09, 2017, 12:32:43 pm
That's a beauty! All this talk about plum lately is really making me want to work some
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Badger on April 09, 2017, 12:42:00 pm
  Thats a beauty Mark. Nice to see plum represented this way.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Badly Bent on April 09, 2017, 01:48:55 pm
Excellent bow Marc.  I especially like that full draw bend, your tillers always look great to me.
I just recently received a fine bow of plum from Idaho Matt in a trade, I'm very impressed with the bow and plum wood.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 09, 2017, 04:36:07 pm
Thanks guys

Hard to see in the pictures but the stave developed a split starting at that black knot and going almost to the back of the handle that went pretty deep.  Much of it disappeared when shaping the handle and what was left I filled with crazy glue

Something I found with Plum is that I have to take some of the bark off for drying otherwise the sapwood gets a peculiar discoloration which I don't like.

I went with a linen string on this bow, 20 strands of some very good quality linen I picked up online.  The string finished up at about 1/8" in diameter with a 350# break strength.  Very good performance out of this bow and it has high string tension.
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Selfbowman on April 10, 2017, 12:15:57 am
Nice bow Mark. I have never had the opportunity to work any plum. Don't think that I could end up with those results though.  ;D Arvin
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: DuBois on April 10, 2017, 08:20:00 pm
Always like your bows Marc.
Very nice!
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 10, 2017, 08:55:06 pm
Marc, that is a might fine bow. Nicely done. Jawge
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 11, 2017, 07:50:47 am
Thank you guys

If you can do it with Osage then you can do it with Plum Arvin
Title: Re: Plum ALB
Post by: Aaron H on April 11, 2017, 10:19:17 am
Another great looking bow Marc.   Spot on tiller as usual