Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: DC on January 23, 2017, 07:21:39 pm
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All the recurve tips I have seen have shoulders leading into a string groove like the one on the left of the picture. Is there anything wrong with doing it the way I did on the right? It's a mock-up using one of my test bends. It has an overlay with the nock on the back. I would probably put a bit of a string groove in it. I guess I'm wondering if it would put extra strain on the loop. I could get the tips narrower this way.
Here's the picture :-[ :-[ :-[ What a bonehead :-[ :-[
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No picture is there Mr DC
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I was going to give him a little time.....Us old guys take longer but are better in the long run........:)
DBar
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The right hand one will work. ;)
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I was going to give him a little time.....Us old guys take longer but are better in the long run........:)
DBar
Better for what???
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You can have the loop a bit longer and straddling the wedge and then transition into a groove or make the wedge shape longer and have a bridge with a groove.
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I guess better pictures , DC.........
The shoulders do a better job of keeping the string inline when coming down from full draw.....
PatM.....sorry the right one won't work as good.................:) :)
DBar
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Not really true.
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/pat_05/IMG_1864_zps8a0393f8.jpg)
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Do you have a side picture of that Pat? I'm pretty sure I know what's going on but, you know.
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PatM
Sijahs ......yep that will work but you will lose the smoothness of the draw of a recurve.....
DBar
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Right hand one reminds me of some Saami bows
(https://i.imgur.com/zOHxPJz.jpg)
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PatM
Sijahs ......yep that will work but you will lose the smoothness of the draw of a recurve.....
DBar
No you won't. ??? It works exactly the same way. It's just a variation of the same thing. Some bows like the Korean bow perfectly combine both in one.
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I thought static recurves (siyahs) drew smoother
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PatM
Seems to me when your drawing your style... your pulling two different bow lengths ...one at the bridge and one at the nock.....where as a recurve the draw is continuously pulling a different length which I would think be a much smoother draw, than going from one short length to a longer length within less than an inch draw. But that's just my opinion.
DBar
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They draw exactly the same according to net tip position if they are both static. A static recurve is a siyah for all intents and purposes. "Siyah" is just a foreign word typically describing a spliced in variation.
Whether a bridge is there or not doesn't change the smoothness or how a bow lengthens on the draw that happens for other reasons.
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Do you have a side picture of that Pat? I'm pretty sure I know what's going on but, you know.
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/pat_05/IMG_1868_zpsa5e87503.jpg)
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Here's a thread showing a bow that has a recurve with a bit of both features. The tapered wedge shape transitioning to the belly groove.
http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/63619/Bamboobacked-Ipe-static-recurve#.WIa-dukizIU
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Here's a thread showing a bow that has a recurve with a bit of both features. The tapered wedge shape transitioning to the belly groove.
http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/63619/Bamboobacked-Ipe-static-recurve#.WIa-dukizIU
I like that, I'll copy it, within copyright of course.
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Check out how Turkish bows nocks are made. I've made a couple of osage 90 deg recurves with tips done the same way. It is much better from a stability point of view than the standard way of making nocks on wooden recurves.
Loon a shyia is just a recurve with a different name....;)
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hey, i wasn't saying that siyahs weren't static recurves
I just thought static recurves draw smoother than working ones since they don't unfold
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hey, i wasn't saying that siyahs weren't static recurves
I just thought static recurves draw smoother than working ones since they don't unfold
it is not as simple as that, there are lots of other factors at play.
Working recurves are a bit of a misnomer in a wooden bow.