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Title: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Travis on December 29, 2016, 03:24:16 pm
What are your recommendations for the best designs for a board bow? While I'm trying to find good trees to start seasoning I broke down and bought some boards at Mendards the other day. I found a 1" x 6" maple, 1" x 4" red oak and 1" x 2" hickory. All of the boards are 6' long. I'd like the final bow to be between 45# and 60# if possible. The maple and hickory have a few run offs but overall very straight and the red oak is almost perfect. I could almost follow a ring on that if I wanted.

Thanks,

Travis
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 03:57:18 pm
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,35312.msg464947.html#msg464947
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 04:00:03 pm
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,15690.msg216670.html#msg216670


An alb works great too. There is really no one better than the other
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: willie on December 29, 2016, 04:07:06 pm
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There is really no one better than the other

I suppose that some designs are better than others for different purposes, at least that what I think bubby is trying to say.

Better for shooting heavy or light arrows? better for target or hunting? better for ease of building?
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Travis on December 29, 2016, 04:16:43 pm
Thanks for the tutorials, those will be very helpful!

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An alb works great too.

What is alb? Sorry I'm somewhat new to this.

I guess I was looking for feedback or preferences to overall style of bow rather than ease of building. I realize it probably depends on what the end goals are for the bow.

Travis
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: willie on December 29, 2016, 04:28:24 pm
different styles are not always  necessarily relegated to boards or stave, especially if you have a board that you can chase a ring on. I suppose that some historical recreations might dictate a stave over a board, but boards do lend themselves to pyramid bows with constant thickness limbs. What do you have to work with for tools? Table saw, or just hand tools?
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bradsmith2010 on December 29, 2016, 06:09:31 pm
I like just a plain D bow ,, bend in the hande,,,but I think I am in the minority,,
I dont like to glue a handle on either,, I just keep it simple with a board bow,, looks a little bit like a Cherokee war bow,, or war bow inspired,, :)
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 06:45:55 pm
Certain woods may have advantages with some styles i think you can build anything with a good hard maple or hickory board but red oak has limitations. What i consider a alb is a bow say 70" ttt with 2" fades and a parallel taper width wise till a foot from the tips then it tapers to 1/2" tips, search ferrets board bow build and it should come up
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Travis on December 29, 2016, 07:07:12 pm
With D bows do you find that they have more hand shock?

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What do you have to work with for tools? Table saw, or just hand tools?
I have a table saw, and some hand tools (rasps, drawknife, planes, scrapers, etc..) So I should be able to rip the boards and get quite a few bows I would think.

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Certain woods may have advantages with some styles i think you can build anything with a good hard maple or hickory board but red oak has limitations. What i consider a alb is a bow say 70" ttt with 2" fades and a parallel taper width wise till a foot from the tips then it tapers to 1/2" tips, search ferrets board bow build and it should come up

Does ALB = American Longbow? I see what you mean, I think that may be a good option for the red oak board. I would eventually like to try a recurve, but want to get a couple under by belt and shooting first.

Travis

Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Stick Bender on December 29, 2016, 07:17:45 pm
There is a good simple design for a bend in the handle bow out of a board in the back of TBB 4  I made one out of red oak , I made my first usable hunting board bow from Paul Comstocks book the bent stick , the one in the back of TBB 4  I made & shooting in a week end when I didn't have much experience , I think the bend in the handle bows are underrated as a first bow , I learned & still learning a lot from making them  I think because of the simple design they force you to concentrate on what makes a bow a bow  Good luck with what ever design you decide on.
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Stick Bender on December 29, 2016, 07:29:54 pm
I posted at the same time you did  & didn't see your question but with my limited experience the white wood d bows that I made had very little hand shock but the first osage one I made was a little shocky tell I learned how to tiller out and lighten the tips  if you don't make them to round in the handle & shoot with a loose grip there's  not a lot of hand shock  I personally think they make you a better archer because they make you concentrate on form but that's just my 2 cents. 
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 08:30:21 pm
Yes make the red oak working limbs 2" wide you will get 2 bows from that make the handle 4" long and 2" fades. I'll send a drawing for you
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 08:35:08 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20161229_165616_HDR_zpsxq1gfim7.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161229_165616_HDR_zpsxq1gfim7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 29, 2016, 08:39:54 pm
I like bend in the handle board bows and these gays I rip the board to 1 3/8 inches.
http://traditionalarchery101.com/boardbowbuildalong.html
Jawge
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: bubby on December 29, 2016, 09:33:59 pm
a well built bendy isn't shocky either to answer your question
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: mikekeswick on December 30, 2016, 03:03:01 am
You've just started and you want a fairly easy to make bow design that shoots great....pyramid bows. The beauty of a pyramid bow is that it should have an 'arc of a circle' tiller and this is very easy to read for a beginners eyes, you can also make yourself a tillering gizmo and that pretty much garantees that you won't go far wrong. They also give you even fiber strain almost automatically which is another big plus.
Pyramid, pyramid pyramid!!
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: loon on December 30, 2016, 03:23:57 am
pyramid R/D? maybe static tips/short hooks as well???
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Travis on December 31, 2016, 12:49:06 pm
Thanks for all the input guys! I think I'll start with a D bow with the 1 3/4" hickory that I have and then work on a ALB and maybe a pyramid with the oak and save the maple for something else after I hopefully have some success with them. Now I just have to convince my wife to let me turn the extra room in the basement to a workshop over the witnter  :)
Title: Re: Best Board Bow Designs
Post by: Stick Bender on December 31, 2016, 05:29:52 pm
Good luck with your D bow hickory is a awesome wood ,D bows are fun to make just go slow & make sure your limb tappers are smooth and you will end up with a nice bow  I'm sure  :D